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Jerry writes that an increase in labour productivity in the production of goods destined exclusively for capitalist consumption... > gives the capitalist a greater volume of use values that they can > enjoy for consumption purposes. But, it is not use-value alone. > Rather, luxury goods take the commodity form and have value which > is expressed through the value-form. > > This increase in the productivity of labor (as measured by an > increase in output per working hour) in Dept IIb (call it Dept III > if you like) means that the necessary labor time for productive > workers in this (sub-) department has decreased and surplus labor > time has increased. Are you asserting that the workers employed by > capital in this (sub-) department aren't productive of surplus > value? The point Paul and I are making is that talk of necessary and surplus labour at the level of particular capitalist enterprises is just a heuristic device. These concepts are properly defined at the social level. Workers producing nothing but luxury good for capitalists are performing no necessary labour: it's _all_ surplus. So their becoming more productive does not raise the rate of surplus value. The same amount of surplus labour is performed and the same surplus value produced, only now it's embodied in a larger mass of use-values. Ricardo was very clear on this (using his own terminology, of course). Allin.
- [OPE-L:5561] Re: Re: William of Ockam's Razor and Political Economy, (continued)
- [OPE-L:5561] Re: Re: William of Ockam's Razor and Political Economy, Paul Sun 13 May 2001, 22:15 GMT
- [OPE-L:5567] Re: William of Ockam's Razor and Political Economy, Gerald_A_Levy Mon 14 May 2001, 12:39 GMT
- [OPE-L:5563] Re: Re: William of Ockam's Razor and Political Economy, Allin Cottrell Mon 14 May 2001, 01:21 GMT
- [OPE-L:5566] What is the effect of changes in Dept IIb/III?, Gerald_A_Levy Mon 14 May 2001, 12:39 GMT
- [OPE-L:5572] Re: What is the effect of changes in Dept IIb/III?, Allin Cottrell Mon 14 May 2001, 17:58 GMT
- [OPE-L:5528] Re: Re: Re: William of Ockam's Razor and Political Economy, nicola taylor Thu 10 May 2001, 03:38 GMT
- [OPE-L:5545] Re: Re: William of Ockam's Razor and Political Economy, Andrew Brown Fri 11 May 2001, 10:36 GMT
- [OPE-L:5504] Re: the assumptions necessary for the two equalities to hold?, Fred B. Moseley Sun 06 May 2001, 16:36 GMT
- [OPE-L:5507] Re: the assumptions necessary for the two equalities to hold?, Gerald_A_Levy Mon 07 May 2001, 12:10 GMT