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Dear Jerry Sorry to be so long picking up this thread. I do not have the German to hand but I did check it out and it is 'is'. But this does not settle the matter because throughout Marrx's work, in this context he sometimes says 'is' and sometimes 'appears as'. This leaves three poss. 1. Marx is confused 2. He means them as synonyms 3. the reality is ambiguous and Marx has different aspects in mind at different times. 'appears as' is certainly ambiguous: sometimes it means appears as what it is and sometimes it means appears as something different. Thus 'the electric discharge appears as lightening' 'Olivier appeared as Othello'. I believe 2 is the likely explanation but I would give 3 a hearing. Chris A >last noted in [5181]. > >Although Chris Arthur's article in _Capital & >Class_ had a quotation (from the Penguin 1976 edition of Volume 1 which >included a translation of "Results of the Immediate Process of >Production") which read: > >"Thus capital [is] *productive* (p. 26), > >in the source cited (the Penguin ed., p. 1056), >it was actually: > >"Thus capital appears *productive*. > > This was not, a typo. In fact, in a footnote (#9, p. > 36), Chris explains: > > "Note the mistranslation: 'appears' should be > 'is' as in Marx, 1994a: 459 [_Collected > Works_, Volume 34, JL]. (I concede > other cases of 'appears' in this translation > of *Results...* are genuine.) Marx first arrived > at this formula in the 1861-63 manuscript; > see Marx 1994a: 128; the whole section > (121-29) is very instructive". > >So, evidently there is a difference in translation >between the Penguin/Vintage edition and the > _CW_, 34, translation. > >Does anyone have the original German? If so, >do you think 'appears' or 'is' is the better >translation? > >In solidarity, Jerry 17 Bristol Road, Brighton, BN2 1AP, England
- [OPE-L:5174] Re: Re: was Marx an economist?, (continued)
- [OPE-L:5174] Re: Re: was Marx an economist?, Gerald_A_Levy Thu 15 Mar 2001, 12:41 GMT
- [OPE-L:5180] Re: Re: Re: was Marx an economist?, Nicola Taylor Fri 16 Mar 2001, 02:30 GMT
- [OPE-L:5181] Re: Re: Re: Re: was Marx an economist?, Gerald_A_Levy Fri 16 Mar 2001, 03:22 GMT
- [OPE-L:5195] 'is' capital productive or is that how it 'appears' ?, Gerald_A_Levy Sat 17 Mar 2001, 17:32 GMT
- [OPE-L:5245] Re: 'is' capital productive or is that how it 'appears', Christopher Arthur Fri 23 Mar 2001, 22:52 GMT
- [OPE-L:5251] Re: Re: 'is' capital productive or is that how it 'appears', Gerald_A_Levy Sat 24 Mar 2001, 14:44 GMT
- [OPE-L:5194] Re: Re: was Marx an economist?, Andrew Brown Sat 17 Mar 2001, 15:19 GMT
- [OPE-L:5241] Re: was Marx an economist?, Christopher Arthur Fri 23 Mar 2001, 22:19 GMT
- [OPE-L:5259] Re: Re: was Marx an economist?, nicola taylor Sun 25 Mar 2001, 04:40 GMT