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Dear Steve (K):
Sometimes when you refer to Marx being an
economist I think you are joking, sometimes
I
think you are serious or only
half-joking.
I don't know if you _fully_ appreciate that
Marx
was a revolutionary, a communist. He was
not
an economist. Indeed, he would have viewed
such a designation as an insult.
Writing _Capital_ was not only an intellectual
task -- it was a political act that he viewed
as
essential. Indeed, it is worthwhile noting that
in 1865 he resigned from a sub-committee
of
the [First] International so that he would
have
more time to write _Capital_ (see
7/31/65
latter to Engels).
Here was a person who was banished
from
many European countries and had spent
his
time in jail. For his beliefs, he spent his
lifetime
in abject poverty and had to rely to a great
extent
on the financial generosity of Engels
(which
certainly must have been hard for a very
proud
man). This also
meant that his wife and children
lived in poverty. Ultimately his lifestyle --
caused
by his unending and lifelong dedication as a
revolutionary and a spokesperson for the
working-
class movement -- led to his death ...
while still
basically a young
man.
To lose sight of his political beliefs is to thus
lose
sight of the man. Everything that he did in his
adult life was an _expression_ of his political
convictions.
To get closer to your critique, I want you
to
think some more about the above and
recall
that Marx considered his theory of
surplus-value
to be one of his two greatest "discoveries" in
political economy. From that perspective,
his
position that wage-labor is the sole source
of
value and surplus-value is more than
a
theoretical position -- it is an _expression_ of
his
politics. It is his explanation for the
exploitation
of the working-class and it has truly
revolutionary
implications about what is required to end
that
exploitation. It is not just another part of his
theory -- it is a cornerstone.
I wonder if you can imagine the disdain with
which
Marx would view the proposition that means of
production create new value? One does not
have
to read a whole lot of the _Theories of
Surplus
Value_ to get an answer. On the one hand, he
viewed such perspectives as fetishistic to
the
extent that it attributes to things (means
of
production) an ability that only labor (and
a
particular social form of labor at that) can
do.
It turns the world upside down where the
illusion
appears that the commodities produced by
labor
are themselves creative of value (thus it is
an
example of commodity fetishism). Moreover, it
has pernicious political implications to the
extent
that it leads towards the bourgeois
conception
that land, labor, *and capital* create value.
Marx
treated such theories, you will recall, with
great
scorn.
The above is not intended as a critique of
your
perspective. Rather, it is intended to
focus
attention on how your perspective of
the
implications of Marx's theory is so
completely
are at variance not only with Marx's
intent
in writing _Capital_ but his entire adult life.
Marx was not an economist -- never forget
that
fact.
And, by the way, the revolution will come!
And,
I hope that the members of this list will live
long
enough to see that day. Indeed, I hope to
stand
shoulder-to-shoulder with many of them some day
at the barricades. And then, in the words of
the
poet J. Bruce Glasier, "We'll turn things
upside
down".
Venceremos!
In solidarity, Jerry
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