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Fred writes, in part, >Paul, I am very glad that you seem to agree that Marx determined prices of >production in terms of money-capital as the initial givens. A comment: the fact that Marx takes M as the starting point in his circuit of capital, the point of Fred's earlier post, does not of itself imply that Marx always understands capital inputs are denominated in pecuniary rather than labor-value terms. A logically possible alternative is that Marx initially understands money capital M as the surface form of a given magnitude of labor value. This reading is consistent with passages such as the following from V. III: "In Volumes I and II we were only concerned with the *values* of commodities. Now a part of this value has split away as the *cost price*, on the one hand, while on the other, the *production price* of the commodity has also developed, as a transformed form of value." [C.III: 263] Note that: production prices are something that is *arrived at* or "developed* as a *transformation* of underlying values, the terms of account in Volumes I (and by extension, the Resultate) and II. The issue is thus how Marx develops this transformation in V. III. > Does this >mean for you, as it does for me, that, since the inputs are already in >terms of prices of production, Marx did NOT "fail to transform the inputs >of constant capital and variable capital from values to prices of >production"? Do you agree that this long-standing and widely accepted >criticism of Marx, from Bortkiewitz on, is wrong. I hope so! It would be more accurate to state that Marx failed to demonstrate *explicitly* the transformation of constant and variable capital inputs from values to prices of production, and as a result failed to demonstrate coherently his aggregative claims about the relations between values and prices of production. Once this explicit transformation is undertaken, in keeping with Marx's V. I definition of commodity values, one finds that Marx's aggregative claims are invalid if not simply tautological, which is why alternative solutions such as the "New" one had to alter Marx's original definitions (in the latter case, untethering the value of labor power from Marx's stipulation) in order to restore the aggregative claims in other than simply tautological form. It's clear that Marx recognized the *need* to transform constant and variable capital from their "value-form" to their "price-form," as seen in the following passage from V. III, Ch. 9: "It was originally assumed that the cost price of a commodity equalled the *value* of the commodities consumed in its production. But for the buyer of a commodity, it is the price of production that constitutes its cost price and can thus enter into forming the price of another commodity. As the price of production of a commodity can diverge from its value, so the cost price of a commodity, in which the price of production of other commodities is involved, can also stand above or below the portion of its total value that is formed by the value of the means of production going into it." [C.III: 264-65] The problem is, however, that Marx never actually demonstrates the transformation from value-form to price-form once he acknowledges that prices can diverge from values. The transformation depicted in the second table on p. 256, *and the aggregative claims based on this transformation* (total surplus value=total profit, total prices= total values) on p. 259, are developed without actually incorporating possible price-value disparities--*despite the fact that, as we know now, prices will necessarily diverge from values given the varying organic compositions in the 5 sectors Marx posits at the beginning of the Chapter.* The necessary inconsistencies in Marx's account are readily seen. First, grant that, for the purposes of Ch. 9 in V. III, constant and variable capital are represented in their price-form rather than their value form; that is, they've *already* been transformed from the value terms by which they were defined in V. I to the cost terms by which capitalists actually experience them. Next, grant that capitalist competition will equate the *rate of exploitation* across sectors, i.e. ensure that (1) Si/Vi = e for all i, where Si is surplus value in sector i, Vi is variable capital in sector i, and e is the constant rate of exploitation across sectors. Now in light of these two givens, the "product values" in the first table (p. 255) must be understood as *product prices* under a system of capitalist competition that ensures equal rates of exploitation. There's no other coherent way to interpret them, since constant and variable capital are in price-form by assumption, and capitalist competition--which is based on prices, not values--equalizes the rate of exploitation by assumption. This dictates in turn that for each sector i, (2) Ci + Vi(1+e) = Pi for all i, where Ci is the price-form of constant capital in sector i and Pi is the commodity price in sector i following from the conditions stated above. But next Marx asserts that capitalist competition must *also* equate the rates of profit across sectors. If Ci and Vi are interpreted as *already* transformed into their price-form, per Fred and the passage quoted above, this means that (3) Si/(Ci +Vi) = r for all i, where r is the economy-wide rate of profit induced by capitalist competition. But since this is a consequence of capitalist competition, enacted in the price-world, it must then be that (ignoring, by Marx's stipulation at the beginning of the chapter, any complications from unequal rates of depreciation of constant capital goods) (4) (Ci + Vi)(1+r) = Pi for all i. Here, the Pi are "officially" the sectoral "prices of production" as Marx defines them on p. 257. *If* we accept, however, that constant and variable capital inputs have already been transformed into their price-form (a transformation that Marx fails to demonstrate), then the Pi's must simultaneously satisfy equations (2) and (4). It is readily shown that this is only possible if organic compositions are identical across sectors, which of course *contradicts* Marx's original stipulation. There's no way around this other than denying that capitalist competition equates sectoral rates of exploitation (or something similar) or denying that the constant and variable capital inputs were "really" transformed. On the other hand, if we *don't* require that capitalism satisfies (2) and (4) in the price world--that is, if we give up on the notion that capitalist competition (and thus capitalist prices, N.B.) equates the rate of exploitation, then Marx's aggregate equalities fail to hold. So necessarily *either* Marx's "transformation" is in error, or the central conclusion of his "transformation" is erroneous. Either way, Marx's analysis of the "transformation" includes a fundamental error. Gil
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- [OPE-L:3558] Re: Re: Re: Re: money-capital as initial givens, Rakesh Bhandari Tue 04 Jul 2000, 04:50 GMT
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