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Allin,
I think you would very much enjoy reading the Albert references I mentioned! Quantum mechanics without the argument that the observer affects reality.
Cheers, Steve
From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@xxxxxxx> Reply-To: ope-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: ope-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [OPE-L:3511] Re: Re: Re: Marxism and 19th century materialism Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 08:50:27 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Paul Cockshott wrote:
> Beyond that I regard the Copenhagen interpretation as itself > being an idealist interpretation of the subject matter.
IMO the starting point for New Age appropriations of quantum mechanics is not actually Bohr's interpretation ("Complementarity", the idea that nature is irreducibly stochastic), but rather the notion von Neumann introduced, that the collapse of the wave-function is located in the consciousness of "the observer".
Allin Cottrell.
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- [OPE-L:3516] Re: Re: Re: Re: Marxism and 19th century materialism, Rakesh Bhandari Mon 19 Jun 2000, 17:04 GMT
- [OPE-L:3515] Re: Marxism and 19th century materialism, Rakesh Bhandari Mon 19 Jun 2000, 16:23 GMT
- [OPE-L:3523] Re: Re: Marxism and 19th century materialism, Paul Cockshott Wed 21 Jun 2000, 08:34 GMT
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- [OPE-L:3513] Re: Re: Re: Re: Marxism and 19th century materialism, Steve Keen Mon 19 Jun 2000, 14:30 GMT
- [OPE-L:3512] Re: Re: Re: Marxism and 19th century materialism, Steve Keen Mon 19 Jun 2000, 14:29 GMT
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- [OPE-L:3508] Re: Marxism and 19th century materialism, Allin Cottrell Mon 19 Jun 2000, 01:44 GMT