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[cont] My view is 'dualist' because I believe capitalist reality is made up of two distinct but interpenetrating realms: the ideal reality of value and the material reality of production and consumption. Neither can be reduced to a mere self-othering of its own opposite in Hegelian style. They are real extremes because of the violent abstraction that produced the doubling of value and use value in the first place. Yet there must be a process of intermediation whereby the alienated realms are related. Either some ahistorical law of social reproduction manages to mediate itself through money etc. or the self-determination of capital must mediate itself in the process of material reproduction: the second has more truth. We have the categories of pure form, value determinations, and the categories of materiality, the technical matrices. Is it not reasonable to suppose that certain categories will also be needed which mark precisely the point of intersection of these realms? bridging categories? In my opinion foremost here is *abstract labour*, constituted *out of* the given technical conditions which the value form interprets, and counts, in the only way open to a socially constituted systemic ideality. Both I and Mike have quoted Rubin on this. >From another angle V is itself the mediator between dissociated labours insofar as it infuses association through exchange of products It therefore is involved in two relations to materiality - 'up' and 'down' to speak figuratively. 1. V as ideal is represented in the relations of commodity bodies, thus measurable in ounces of gold (gold here serves as bridge). This representation mediates the allocation of capital and labour to specific sites. (More exactly the deviations from it in price.) 2. V as ideal is grounded in material production but represents the unique factor, L, only as an abstraction, because it necessarily has to idealise L in giving it a determinate role in the value sphere. Considered as a representation of abstract labour, value registers class exploitation. It is because AL is a bridging category that it is easy to specify it in contradictory ways as Riccardo shows. But we an live with this if we can exhibit it as a result of a double movement of VF dialectic. Just to show we shouldn't be afraid of this contradiction let me point out a parallel case. A crime is clearly prior to the court case that results. Yet there is no such thing as a crime from a formal point of view unless and until it is clearly defined as such by a legal system. What is exogenous is that someone is hit on the head; but this is only a crime if the courts say so; and only if it is accepted by the court as a prima facie case will it be recognised legally as commensurable with other cases of its class and, if validated, paid for according to the relevant tariff. So we see here a double movement, a system exists which defines what crime is, and then particular cases arise and are treated according to the rules established. So the crime both does and does not preexist the court's recognition of it. In our case the VF sets up rules of representing cases of value creation which measure them according to an abstract standard; 'abstract labour' is therefore internally related to the VF system, its 'posit', just as crime is posited by the legal system. But just as the legal system does not cause someone to hit another on the head but rather reacts according to its preestablished rules of representation of it, so the value form does not itself constitute the manifold of concrete labours required to produce a good but takes this input under its rule of representation so as to commensurate it with others. It is systematic determination that recognises labour as abstract in the VF; and the characteristics of a specific production process that are prior to this social validation. So Abstract labour both does and does not preexist its validation in money form. Quantification: without prejudice to Geert and Fred's discussion, assume for the sake of argument VFT numbers and fred's are the same; the issue still remains one of different conceptualisations of what the numbers stand for. To put it more sharply Fred does not see any significant conceptual problem. But VFT thinks it very odd that labours can be added, compared, counted and discounted. VFT is aimed at explaining that what seems illegitimate or metaphysical here is in reality an effect objectively constituted by the VF itself. Andrew raised the important issue of where in the system does power reside, to what substance can it be attributed? I agree with Mike in the first instance that at bottom it is the entire system that it is determinant and to which we must refer as the source of its specific effects. But I disagree when Mike limits the system's posits to the constitution of value as a property of commodities. I think the system also posits value as the 'substance' of commodities and money, and posits value as 'subject' in the capital form. (On these latter points I am pleased to record agreement with Marx: C1 (P) 255-56.) Once these forms are posited by the system they act with the powers their place in it grants them. These powers include the regulation of material production. When the VF sinks into production two things happen: 1. production becomes form determined, governed by the requirements of capital accumulation; 2. value gains exogenous determinants of its magnitude insofar as what it gives the shape of a commodity to is not mere malleable stuff but has a definite structure of material potentials and limits. As Marx says, in capitalist production use value has a specific form of economic determinacy. Now, how about 'abstract labour'? At this point I part company with Marx and Andrew. I do not think labour, or abstract labour [which?] creates value; I do not think abstract labour is a power. I think value is created by value. - Out of L to be sure, but the *active* element is self-valorising value. Let us appeal to an analogy. Human beings cannot live without food and there are no doubt functions relating the mass of nutrients to the rate of growth. But it would be strange to say food creates human beings. Rather the teleological positing inherent in human beings leads us to speak of them reproducing themselves, both in the sense of maintenance and multiplication. We actively seek food, modify it, and absorb its matter according to our metabolic constitution. Value likewise, as a subject/substance, appropriates labour in its own metabolism. This means V and AL are not on the same ontological level. Value becomes a real power whereas abstract labour is that which is shaped by value as its 'body' when it grounds itself in production. Indeed I think there is a real question here as to whether or not abstract labour may be just a 'shadow form' cast by value accounting of labour, rather than a constituted being of some sort. (On shadow see P. Murray CC 1998) But I think it is a category representing that moment of valorisation in which it reifies labour, as argued above. To conclude, my VFT sees form as determinant; but what it determines also has its specific effectivity, especially in determining the magnitude of value. But the overriding moment is the self-activity of value, which pays a price for tangling with recalcitrant workers and the resistant raw material, but which emerges triumphant by producing a commodity 'pregnant with surplus value' (to cite another Marx metaphor!). Comradely Chris A P. S. Please note that I have a new Email address, <cjarthur@xxxxxxxxxxxx> but the old one will also run until next summer. (To be doubly sure load both!)
- [OPE-L:2291] Re: Re:civil society, (continued)
- [OPE-L:2291] Re: Re:civil society, clyder Tue 25 Jan 2000, 09:51 GMT
- [OPE-L:2292] Re: Re: Re:civil society, michael a. lebowitz Tue 25 Jan 2000, 10:25 GMT
- [OPE-L:2298] Re: civil society, Gerald Levy Sun 30 Jan 2000, 14:32 GMT
- [OPE-L:2269] value form theories [part 1], C. J. Arthur Fri 21 Jan 2000, 18:13 GMT
- [OPE-L:2268] value form theories [part 2], C. J. Arthur Fri 21 Jan 2000, 18:13 GMT
- [OPE-L:2250] "Common Sense", Gerald Levy Thu 20 Jan 2000, 13:01 GMT
- [OPE-L:2253] Re: "Common Sense", riccardo bellofiore Thu 20 Jan 2000, 15:03 GMT
- [OPE-L:2257] Re: Re: "Common Sense", C. J. Arthur Fri 21 Jan 2000, 00:07 GMT
- [OPE-L:2249] Gold and the standard of price, Kimikomat Thu 20 Jan 2000, 08:11 GMT