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Prof. Foley wrote: > >I don't agree with Mandel on this one.There's no reason to suppose that the >flow of capital in and out of gold production won't tendentially lead to the >equalization of the profit rate in gold production to the average rate of profit, >just as in any other sector. I also don't see why this would contradict Marx's >theory of money and price. You don't disagree with Mandel here, actually (see the article mentioned previously in the book Ricardo, Marx, Sraffa, edited by Alan Freeman and Ernest Mandel, page 149). I/we evidently should not blur the distinction between (1) the production of gold as a commodity with its own price of production, subject to the operation of the law of value (2) gold functioning as money equivalent within the sphere of circulation (as medium of exchange), and (3) gold as a store of value (in the last resort). Mandel sought to explore the relationship between fluctuations in the general rate of profit, activity in the goldmining sector, and the general price level. When he talks about the "value" of gold, he refers to "its intrinsic value, that is the quantity of social labour necessary for its production, measured in labour-time, and never its purchasing price". He argues that "This purchasing power can only be deduced from the evolution of the general price level, which is precisely a relation between the value of the commodity gold and the average value of all other commodities" (op. cit., page 275 note 7). I think I would dispute that nowadays though, but I haven't sorted out my thinking on it properly. Mandel's article is in part intended to redress an error in his book Late Capitalism, where he used gold as a 'department III' of production, confusing gold in general with its minor role as luxury good. It is likewise intended as a criticism of Von Bortkiewicz's use of gold as the production of Dept III (postulating unrealistically a fixed value of gold, and an invariant production price). Von Bortkiewicz's assumption was vital to his solution to the transformation problem, which as we now know was wrong. His treatment of gold was previously criticised by Winternitz in 1952. Mandel apparently never regarded the transformation problem as a substantive "problem" for Marxist economic theory, and did not publish specifically on it except the mentioned article, inviting the charge of "Maginot Marxism". In 1960 however he did write "The whole problem of the transformation of value into price was examined in great detail, with meticulous calculation, by Natalia Moszkowska in Das Marxsche System: ein Beitrag zu dessen Aufbau, a book which appeared in 1929 and which attracted little comment outside Germany." (Marxist Economic Theory, Merlin Press, p. 162n). He said he would discuss Moszkowska's approach critically in a subsequent edition of Marxist Economic Theory, but he didn't. I have not read Moszkowska's book, so cannot tell whether Mandel is correct (as far as I know Moszkowska's book was not translated into English - for interested readers, her archives are located in Switzerland). Mandel's later remarks in his Introduction to Volume III or Capital (Penguin edition) and in the book "Ricardo, Marx, Sraffa" however suggest a solution which anticipates the Temporal Single System approach, and is similar to it. Certainly Mandel rejected the transplantation of neo-classical equilibrium economics into Marxist economic theory, throughout his life. His point of departure, following Leon Trotsky, was always that the actual growth process of capitalism is premised on uneven development, and not accompanied by any effective equalisation of the rate of profit; that it is essentially driven by the search for surplus-profits. In solidarity Jurriaan
- [OPE-L:2045] Re: Re: Re: gold, (continued)
- [OPE-L:2045] Re: Re: Re: gold, clyder Thu 06 Jan 2000, 14:38 GMT
- [OPE-L:2057] Re: Re: Re: gold, Duncan K. Foley Sat 08 Jan 2000, 04:51 GMT
- [OPE-L:2061] Re: Re: Re: Re: gold, coslap Sat 08 Jan 2000, 17:51 GMT
- [OPE-L:2065] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gold, Jurriaan Bendien Sun 09 Jan 2000, 03:04 GMT
- [OPE-L:2066] Re: Re: Re: Re: gold, Jurriaan Bendien Sun 09 Jan 2000, 03:04 GMT
- [OPE-L:2046] Re: Re: Re: the money supply, Allin Cottrell Thu 06 Jan 2000, 15:27 GMT
- [OPE-L:2038] RE: Re: Units of measure, P . J . Wells Wed 05 Jan 2000, 18:13 GMT
- [OPE-L:2036] RE: Re: Units of measure, P . J . Wells Wed 05 Jan 2000, 16:30 GMT
- [OPE-L:2037] Re: Units of measure, Gerald Levy Wed 05 Jan 2000, 17:02 GMT