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Re: [Marxism] Iran's rural vote and election fraud
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- Subject: Re: [Marxism] Iran's rural vote and election fraud
- From: Louis Proyect <lnp3@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:37:28 -0400
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Suresh: Louis, it's hard to notice that the 'reforms' that are being
vaguely alluded to here are inevitably of the "much-needed" neo-liberal
variety. If we're now taking Kautsky's and Plekhanov's line, and are
arguing on behalf of another period of capitalist development of the
progressive forces in state-dominated dirigiste economies like Iran (or
maybe Belarus, Zimbabwe, Myanmar etc.), let's just come out and say it.
---
We are not taking Kautsky's line. We are taking Lenin's line. The
working class needs democratic rights in order to press its class
demands. In my post on whether a velvet revolution was unfolding in
Iran, I quoted a passage from "What is to be Done" that illustrated
Lenin's idea of how a vanguard functioned:
Why is there not a single political event in Germany that does not add
to the authority and prestige of the Social-Democracy? Because
Social-Democracy is always found to be in advance of all the others in
furnishing the most revolutionary appraisal of every given event and in
championing every protest against tyrannyâIt intervenes in every sphere
and in every question of social and political life; in the matter of
Wilhelmâs refusal to endorse a bourgeois progressive as city mayor (our
Economists have not managed to educate the Germans to the understanding
that such an act is, in fact, a compromise with liberalism!); in the
matter of the law against âobsceneâ publications and pictures; in the
matter of governmental influence on the election of professors, etc.,
etc. Everywhere the Social-Democrats are found in the forefront, rousing
political discontent among all classes, rousing the sluggards,
stimulating the laggards, and providing a wealth of material for the
development of the political consciousness and the political activity of
the proletariat. [emphasis added]
---
Which led me to state:
I rather like this V.I. Lenin, whose chief concerns seem so
diametrically opposed to the Marxist partisans of Ahmadinejad whose sole
litmus test consists of the amount of calories an Iranian family enjoys
each day. I would not be one to diminish such a criterion, but Leninâs
attention to matters such as laws against âobsceneâ publications and
art, and governmental influence on the election of professors would
likely cause him to retch at the material now circulating in defense of
Ahmadinejad.
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