Re: [Marxism] Alan Woods versus James Petras

[Gary MacLennan <gary.maclennan1@xxxxxxxxx>]

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> Thanks for this Lou. So now we know. I always had a soft spot for the
> Militant tendency - at least the ones I knew at Essex Uni back in the early
> 70s. They drove me mad with their analysis of the Northern Irish
> situations.  They sought to turn an anti-Imperialist struggle into a fight
> for trade union rights. But I never realised fully the depth of their
> oppostion to the movements.
>

My point remains then.  What comfort would a gay in Iran get from being
described as "petty bourgeois"?  Besides what in the name of Jeezuss is
"petty bourgeois" code for?  The answer of course is "Untermensch".

regards

Gary

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>  From an interview with Ted Grant:
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> Q: What was the role of the leaders of the Fourth [Intrernational]?
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> A: Only that they were not up to the level of the tasks posed by
> history. Marx once said that he had sown dragons but reaped fleas.
> Trotsky could have said something similar. We used to think: “Ah well,
> they are at least manure for the future.” But they were not even that.
> Pablo, Frank, Mandel, Cannon, Healy, Maitan – they succeeded in
> completely disorienting the movement, leading it from one crisis to
> another. In the end, they destroyed it...
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> They have absorbed all the nonsense of the petty bourgeois – woman’s
> lib, gay lib, black nationalism, guerillaism – you name it! Not a trace
> of the old ideas remains. In fact, some of them like the American SWP no
> longer even call themselves Trotskyists. That is history’s revenge for
> the policies and conduct of the leaders of the SWP in the past!
>
> full:
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> http://www.marxist.com/the-theoretical-origins-of-the-degeneration-of-the-fourth-interview-with-ted-grant.htm
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