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Re: [Marxism] "Violence flares as Ahmadinejad wins vote"
On Jun 13, 2009, at 7:28 PM, Jim Farmelant wrote:
>
>> The possibility of various types of vote fraud are real. However, we
>> should
>> not ignore that the Islamic Republic political machine and
>> Ahmadinejad
>> himself still have a sizable base of support.
>
> I suspect that is correct. I also suspect that
> whatever electoral fraud may have taken
> place in Iran was not sufficient to effect
> the outcome of the election.
With sufficient stupidity it would be possible to "suspect" that about
the 2000 and 2004 US elections. But when the "Ministry of the
Interior" of a police state releases, a few hours after the polls
close, a precise count of more than 25 million paper ballots; when it
discloses no breakdown of those numbers by election district; when the
counting process is completely secret and no recount is permitted;
when nonofficial inspection of ballot boxes is prohibited; when no
opposition observers are permitted inside the polling stations; when
electronic communication among the people is administratively shut
down even before voting has ended as are pro-opposition media outlets;
when the state's repressive apparatus shows up totally mobilized the
moment the "results" are proclaimed; when the main opposition
candidate becomes incommunicado the moment he speaks of fraud; etc.,
etc., ad nauseam--this "suspicion" so far passes the bounds of
stupidity in its servile apologetics as to become positively
stalinoid. Ahmedinejad's "election" makes Mugabe's look only
moderately fraudulent!
Shane Mage
> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
>
> Herakleitos of Ephesos
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