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Re: [Marxism] Marta Harnecker: Ideas for the struggle #4 -- Should we reject bureaucratic centralism and simply use consensus?
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- Subject: Re: [Marxism] Marta Harnecker: Ideas for the struggle #4 -- Should we reject bureaucratic centralism and simply use consensus?
- From: sabocat59@xxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:05:08 +0000
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By positing consensus as the only alternative to democratic centralism, it
smells like Harnecker is using a straw man of ultra democracy to reinforce
neo-stalinist tendencies.
In the IWW, which I would call democratic decentralist, we do not use
consensus. We use Robert's Rules. But we still have a hierarchy with an
elected central leadership. There is a certain dynamic tension between local
membership bodies and the GHQ, allowing for vigorous debate and much autonomy
at the local level. And any member can introduce ideas for reform which are
debated locally and voted on at national assemblies.
As such, the example of the Wobblies stands as a real non straw man democratic
alternative, one which works without the consensus approach criticized by
Harnecker.
Greg McDonald
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