Re: [Marxism] Redbaiting on the left

[Mark Lause <markalause@xxxxxxxxx>]

The question of "red-baiting" as discussed here is really a matter of
one cluster of bankers calling the other cluster of bankers
ripoffs...one militarist superpower calling the

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:14 AM, chegitz guevara <absynthe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Bhaskar Sunkara
> <bhaskar.sunkara@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I have endorsed and will be volunteering at the action in Washington on the
>> 21st, but this article is not really worthy of counterpunch.  I agree with
>> some of its general sentiments, but first of all UFPJ has CPUSA members in
>> its steering committee, has ISO involvement, SP-USA etc, etc, I don't think
>> this is a case of a red-baiting, just poor politics.
>>
>> The protest movement should be completely independent of the Democratic
>> Party, should involve direct action and other non-conventional tactics.
>>
>> Poor article, but its good that the word got out about March 21
>
> First off, the fact that the CPUSA is in a group's steering committee
> is not an argument against that organization being capable of
> red-baiting. The CPUSA has a long history of red-baiting.
>
> Second, the fact that groups like the ISO and the SPUSA (in the case
> of the later, UfPJ membership is *very* contentious) doesn't mean that
> UfPJ isn't engaging in red baiting. I can't vouch for the ISO, but the
> SPUSA is only still in UfPJ because the organization is if we split,
> member groups get free tabling at UfPJ events and a vote at
> conventions. Without membership, you end up paying the same money to
> set up tables as you'd pay in dues, but you don't get the vote. If
> you're gonna pay the same money anyway, may as well be a member. The
> issue is a very contentious one in the party.
>
> Marc Luzietti
>
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