Re: [Marxism] The IRA and armed struggle

[Bill Quimby <wquimby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

As a part Irish American I am dismayed to hear that so much rancor and
potential violence still bubbles under the surface of what I had
hoped was a solution to "the troubles". I would hate to see a restoration of
bombing innocent men in their search for a pint after a hard days work, and
yet do understand the stress caused by that fact that Imperialism still exists
on Irish soil.

So, now that I am, like the West, awake - can the disputants suggest some web
sites (I am sure that there are some) that try to cover the still-existing 
troubles?

- Bill

sobuadhaigh@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> CRP wrote:
>> A friend of mine (Pete) told me some interesting stuff
>> about his two tours of Northern Ireland with 4/5 Commando,
>> particularly that despite all the fierce, hate-ridden
>> rhetoric, it was remarkable how civil and efficient the
>> various factions on both sides were, amongst thesmelves
>> and across the religious divide, when it came to dividing
>> up cities for 'protection' purposes, and who would control
>> the supply of which drugs where...
> 
> Did Pete also tell you about the Unionist paramilitaries
> dealing drugs, shaking down business for protection money,
> and murdering Republicans on whom the SAS (among others)
> was providing detailed intelligence? Tis a pity
> if he didn't but then Her majesty's forces had an entirely
> different attitude toward that expression of Irish criminality.
> Perhaps Pete was one of those stalwart defenders of empre
> who like to parade around o the base with his mates wearing the
> orange sash and carrying the red hand of Ulster bigotry,
> just for fun. Then again I don't know Pete.
> 
> The American Army in Vietnam used to disparage NVA
> soldiers by claiming that they were all drug addcts
> which explained their unbelivable courage. It was a curious
> bit of projection for an Army consuming the amount of drugs
> that it was. It would be far easier to dispense with the
> whole troublesome history of Irish resistance to
> Mother England if the nationalist were merely criminals
> using radical rhetoric as a cover. Are they? Were Bobby Sands
> amd the other hunger strikers really planning a bank
> robbery when they starved themselves to death? Were the volunters
> who stopped the mobs from buring homes, schools and churches i
> in the shankhill really trying to find a liquor store to rob?
> 
> I have no dount that the Provos are smuggling cigarettes
> amd gasoline across the free state border and since their
> huge losses in sub prime morgages, they have probobly
> stepped this up. I have no dount that various criminals at
> various tims have told peole they were acting for this or that
> armed group. What's more I know that within any army there
> are criminals.
> 
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