Re: [Marxism] The Left and Support For Islamic Resistance

[Ruthless Critic of All that Exists <ok.president+nbsy@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Michael Smith <mjs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:57:22 -0500
> Ruthless Critic of All that Exists <ok.president+nbsy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> This is a good point, but calling for a stop to US meddling is not
>> mutually exclusive with articulating our own *Marxist* call for a stop
>> to the oppression of women and gays by the religious clerics. It is
>> not an either-or thing here -- one can call for both.
>
> One can call for one's pipe. One can call for one's bowl. One can
> call for one's fiddlers three. But unless one is Old King Cole....
>

That applies just as much to Steve Palmer's exhortation to "call for a
stop to US meddling".

I think the discussion is too premised on the (false) presupposition
that everyone in this list is a living-in-imperialist-country leftist,
which leads to the conclusion that "calling for a stop to US meddling"
is going to be somehow effective, whereas "calling for a stop to the
oppression of women and gays by the religious clerics" will be
ineffective .

But this is an international list. For a Marxist in, say, Turkey,
"calling for a stop to the oppression of women and gays by the
religious clerics" may be much more effective than "calling for a stop
to US meddling".

If we aspire to be internationalists, we cannot call for just one of the two.

RC

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