Re: [Marxism] The Left and Support For Islamic Resistance

[Michael Smith <mjs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:57:22 -0500
Ruthless Critic of All that Exists <ok.president+nbsy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> This is a good point, but calling for a stop to US meddling is not
> mutually exclusive with articulating our own *Marxist* call for a stop
> to the oppression of women and gays by the religious clerics. It is
> not an either-or thing here -- one can call for both.

One can call for one's pipe. One can call for one's bowl. One can 
call for one's fiddlers three. But unless one is Old King Cole....

Then of course there's the Shake: 

Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man; 
But will they come when you do call for them?




> 
> > When Marx was supporting Turkey ('sons of Mohammed'!) against Russia, he 
> > was well aware of their national policy in the region, the status accorded 
> > to women etc but understood that was not the issue of the moment and didn't 
> > waste his breath on public criticism.
> 
> Marx lived more than a century ago. We Marxists don't make a fetish
> out of what Marx did or didn't. We are guided by Marxism as a method
> of critique and struggle, not by Marx-emulation.
> 
> 
> > It is also amusing to see how people agonize over *Islamic* resistance not 
> > over resistance when it happens to be christian. Christianity can hardly be 
> > accused of being progressive on gay and womens' issues!
> 
> Of course Marxists call that out too. For example, Daniel Ortega, a
> Sandinista anti-imperialist, recently made abortions very difficult to
> get in Nicaragua. He did this to make nice with the Catholic church.
> Principled Marxists have of course criticized and condemned Ortega for
> this act of women's oppression.
> 
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