Re: [Marxism] Expulsion of Walter

["s.artesian" <sartesian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I defend the decision also, and I have been removed, removed myself, and
allowed back I think as much as anybody.

Can we concentrate on exactly what Walter posted?  Eli posted
an article about the US missile strike killing 18 in Pakistan nationals
and identified the deaths as the first blood on Obama's hands.

Obama's explicit intention is to seek, create, pursue, engage
in a wider war "in" Afghanistan-- and for those who think he 
will reduce the warlike stance towards Iran, let me remind you
that Iran borders Afghanistan.  Anyway, this policy will bring
increased suffering and death to thousands in Afghanistan and
Pakistan.

Walter then posted an attack on Eli for not being fair and balanced;
for not recognizing that a glass half-filled with blood is also
half-empty of tears; for being negative (!) when there is so much
positive in this crazy mixed-up world of ours.

In short, Walter defended, explained, rationalized imperialist
destruction.  Now  WTF?  I mean WTF?!?! Suppose just suppose
the US Navy on a training exercise had miscalculated the trajectory
of its offshore gunship artillery and by mistake killed 18 Cuban
nationals around Guantanomo?  Now would Walter have seen the positive
offsetting that?  No F--king Way.

So enough disavowal of reality: Walter's reality is that because
Fidel, for his own reasons, those reasons being an end to the embargo
finds "positive" things in Obama, Walter will attack those who
oppose imperialist adventures; Walter will rationalize the deaths of
oppressed peoples.   That is the reality.  If that is the reality
you want this list to reflect, then please state so directly and cut
the rest of the stuff and save some time and bandwidth.




-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Russell <proletariandan@xxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Jan 25, 2009 5:19 PM
>To: sartesian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [Marxism] Expulsion of Walter
>
>I'm going to have to defend Louis' decision since it seems like many people
>are worried about it being some sort of 'dangerous' precedent.

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