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Re: [Marxism] Follow-up on Valkyrie: personal conscience and responsibility
On Jan 4, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Hunter Gray wrote:
> I understand Rommel, in North Africa, insisted on good treatment
> for British prisoners of war and did not honor Hitler's general
> stricture to murder Jews. There were numerous plots to kill Hitler
> and I have no problem giving credit for conscience-emergence and
> great courage on the part of those German officers, depicted in
> Valkyrie, who tried desperately to fulfill a worthy mission.
The phrase "numerous plots" suggests that this film, as is to be
expected, treats July 20 as an isolated act of heroic individuals
rather than what it was--the continuation of an antiNazi conspiracy
(names: Oster, Canaris, Gisevius, Gördeler) with a worked-out plan to
overthrow the Nazi regime and replace it with a government that would
include Social-Democrats (Leber) and end the war. They were always in
contact with British intelligence (and the USA during WW2). What,
being untainted by Marxism, the conspirators did not begin to
understand was that the Allies never wanted the overthrow of Hitler
because they were terrified that it would result in a replay of the
1918-1919 proletarian revolution. That is why, for instance,
Chamberlain--knowing that Hitler would be overthrown the moment he
started a war by mobilizing against Czechoslovakia--dishonored his
treaties and betrayed the Czechs at Berchtesgaden and Munich. And
that is why (but the proof will forever remain ultraclassified if not
actually destroyed) the Allies specifically targeted Rommel and by
putting him hors-de-combat guaranteed (because Stauffenberg stupidly
failed to put the *second*, unfused, bomb into the briefcase) the
failure of July 20.
Shane Mage
> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
>
> Herakleitos of Ephesos
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