Re: [Marxism] Revolution and Religious Fundamentalism

["Lüko Willms" <lueko.willms@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 20:29:34 EST, Jscotlive@xxxxxxx wrote:

> And while the central role of the Catholic Church in the Irish Free State  
> may not have been the original aim or intention of the signatories of the  
> Proclamation in 1916, it is hard to see how such religious conservatism,  
> especially in matters of social policy, would not have been as rigid 
> should they  have  survived to see their dream of Irish nationhood 
> come to  pass. 

  I dare to differ on that, and strongly. 

  Reactionary forces are strenghened by reacionary solutions like the division 
of the country into the 26-country republic and the 6-county statelet under 
direct British rule. 

  Had the liberation gone further and deeper, i.e. achieved a full 
independence of all of Ireland, then a) the Catholic church would not have 
been able to claim a role of the unique representation and form of Christian 
faith, and b) every reactionary force would have been weakened, including 
the religious institutions. 

  Similarly, but different, the claims that a united Germany after the previous 
war would have looked like the GDR burocratic rule, are as false as that. A 
united working class movement in Germany would not have tolerated such a 
rule after it would have successfully beaten back the efforts of the Western 
Allies to divide the country. 

  Well, we are discussing "what if" questions, whose answers cannot be 
proved, but think about it and look at other outcomes in different places. 


Comradely yours, 
Lüko Willms
Frankfurt, Germany
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