Re: [Marxism] Anarchism and gays

["Daniel Read" <danreadfreelance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Pardon the spelling mistake in regards to "abundance"!

2008/10/6 Daniel Read <danreadfreelance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> There is an abudence of mud being hurled from both sides in regards to
> who "broke" the International, but when it comes to hard sources I
> find myself struggling to find many. Which book, in the opinion of
> those here, works as a truly effective account of what really went on
> behind the scenes of the Marx/Bakunin fight?
>
> Cheers
>
> Dan
> 2008/10/6 Mark Lause <markalause@xxxxxxxxx>:
>> Marx was so eager to kill the First International that he'd have used
>> anything to do it. He was terrified that the Internaitonal would wind
>> up in the hands of Bakunin and his followers who were, to be fair,
>> less geared toward revolution that a sort of putsch approach to
>> seizing power.  But Marx and Engels were pretty much picking this
>> stuff out of pepper..;..
>>
>> Remember, this was the same time he arranged to axe all the Americans
>> to insure that Friedrich Sorge would control what was left in the US.
>> The charges were that Victoria Woodhull was a free lover who
>> emphasized woman suffrage...and the American sections supported her.
>>
>> The downside of this immediate short-term thinking was that it created
>> a clear ethnic division in the IWA sections in the US, within which
>> the Germans claimed a license from ol' Karl for several generations.
>> This placed much of the experience of the American masses beyond their
>> concerns...everything from the fate of black Reconstruction through
>> the Populists....
>>
>> ML
>>
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