Re: [Marxism] Anarchism and gays

["Daniel Read" <danreadfreelance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

There is an abudence of mud being hurled from both sides in regards to
who "broke" the International, but when it comes to hard sources I
find myself struggling to find many. Which book, in the opinion of
those here, works as a truly effective account of what really went on
behind the scenes of the Marx/Bakunin fight?

Cheers

Dan
2008/10/6 Mark Lause <markalause@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Marx was so eager to kill the First International that he'd have used
> anything to do it. He was terrified that the Internaitonal would wind
> up in the hands of Bakunin and his followers who were, to be fair,
> less geared toward revolution that a sort of putsch approach to
> seizing power.  But Marx and Engels were pretty much picking this
> stuff out of pepper..;..
>
> Remember, this was the same time he arranged to axe all the Americans
> to insure that Friedrich Sorge would control what was left in the US.
> The charges were that Victoria Woodhull was a free lover who
> emphasized woman suffrage...and the American sections supported her.
>
> The downside of this immediate short-term thinking was that it created
> a clear ethnic division in the IWA sections in the US, within which
> the Germans claimed a license from ol' Karl for several generations.
> This placed much of the experience of the American masses beyond their
> concerns...everything from the fate of black Reconstruction through
> the Populists....
>
> ML
>
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