[Marxism] greenwald/olberman

[abu hartal <abuhartal@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Let's see the most prominent national media Obama supporter responds to 
Greenwald in the Daily Kos, and this is not seen as change worth fighting for? 
The stakes are too high for LBO talk snarkiness
_______

And Olbermann responded with a post last night on Daily Kos.

He explained his segment by citing former Nixon aide (and frequent Countdown 
guest) John Dean's argument that the FISA compromise "clearly did not preclude 
future criminal prosecution of the telecoms - it only stopped civil suits." (He 
added, "I think John Dean is worth 25 Glenn Greenwalds (maybe 26 Keith 
Olbermanns)."

More Olbermann:

Thus, as I phrased it on the air tonight, obviously Obama kicked the left in 
the teeth by supporting the bill. But anybody who got as hot about this as I 
did would prefer to see a President Obama prosecuting the telecoms criminally, 
instead of seeing a Senator Obama engender more "soft on terror" crap by 
casting a token vote in favor of civil litigation that isn't going to pass 
since so many other Democrats caved anyway.

When Markos was on (Monday? Again, blurs) he made the simple but essential 
point that if this is Obama's rationale for this, maybe he should explain it. I 
think it can be argued that if he's caught the same hole in the bill that Dean 
has, his best course is actually to shut up and take the criticism and hope the 
Republicans don't see the loophole.

I don't know much about Mr. Greenwald and I didn't read his full piece, but I 
do know that the snippet he's taken out of the transcript of my conversation 
with Jon Alter last night makes it sound like I was saying defying the left was 
a good thing. I was actually contrasting it to not cowering to the Republicans, 
simply as a different thing.

I do think Mr. Greenwald's suggestion of some kind of betrayal on my part is 
simplistic and childish. I'll take the Dean interpretation of this. If it isn't 
the Senator's game plan, he'll catch hell from me about it later.
_________________________________________________________________
News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now!
http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx
________________________________________________
YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message.
Send list submissions to: Marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Set your options at: 
http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40archives.econ.utah.edu