Re: [Marxism] Imperialism in 1848

["Ruthless Critic of All that Exists" <ok.president+marxml@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Charles Brown
<charlesb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> CB: And of course, in China today capitalism is not being brought to
> China by colonizing, imperializing, racist Europeans, which takes it
> qualitatively out of the empirical category of Luxembourg's critique.
> The capitalism in China and Vietnam has self-determining control by
> nationally liberated ,indigenous peoples.

How is it "self-determining"? Was a referendum taken on the issue in
which the Chinese masses were consulted? Do the Chinese workers have
workers' councils which determine or influence policy, or elect or
recall representatives to the government?

It seems to me that they do not have even the minimum (highly
insufficient) of self-determination that even bourgeois democracy
provides.

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