Re: [Marxism] SACP on xenophobic attacks

[Louis Proyect <lnp3@xxxxxxxxx>]

Walter wrote:
>If you don't like what Marx and Engels said in 1848, it proves 
>nothing to cite what Leon Trotsky wrote in 1939.

I make the point that there was no imperialism in 1848 and Walter 
replies that I "don't like" what M&E said in 1848, as if we were 
talking about my personal tastes. Are we wasting our time trying to 
have a discussion or debate with Walter here? It is very, very bad if 
we have somebody who is the center of attention here on many days who 
refuses to engage with what you are saying. One of the world's 
leading Marxist scholars on Southern Africa has announced that he is 
ignoring Walter's messages because he doesn't want to waste his time 
and now we have Michael Lebowitz joking that Walter might have early 
Alzheimers.

I really have to think hard about the law of diminishing returns on 
this 3 year struggle around the ANC, Lula, China, etc. If the 
antagonist in a debate willfully refuses to hear what you are saying 
or puts words in your mouth, what is the point? 


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