Re: [Marxism] zizek on tibet and china

["Paula" <Paula_cerni@xxxxxxx>]

Ruthless asked:
> What are some such brutally anti-democratic policies that the "decent
> leftists and liberals" support?

For example, the policy of bombing, invading and occupying other people's 
countries .

I am not sure about Paul's view that China "is most unlikely to give any 
real concessions to the working class unless it is forced by the workers to 
do so (a bit like Britain 100 years back)." China, like any other capitalist 
nation, needs to cultivate a moderate middle class, involving not only 
small-business people, but also more privileged workers - especially in 
service occupations, the public sector, etc.  China's capacity to do this 
seems set to increase as the country becomes wealthier. Depending on 
economic conditions, China might even be able to increase overall working 
class living standards substantially, even without being 'forced' - as it 
happened in the West during the post-war boom.

Otherwise I very much agree with Paul's point about the hypocrisy of the 
West's 'defence of democracy'. This is matched, on the other side, by the 
hypocrisy of a Chinese government denouncing Western nationalism and media 
bias.

You may all want to see this BBC page summing up some recent Chinese 
internet reactions:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7347821.stm

Paula
 


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