Re: [Marxism] Harlem Conference on Obama (FYI -- past)

["Fred Feldman" <ffeldman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Like Elmer Fudd in a Bugs Bunny cartoon, Woothless Kwitik is outwaged! To
wit:

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Fred Feldman <ffeldman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>  But this character, whether he knows it or not, is a racist. All his
>  priorities are implicitly racist, even oil prices (the Arabs); guns
(against
>  the Black criminals and the Latin and Caribbean drug gangs)  and
immigration
>  (they should go back to Mexico).

The words in parentheses here are *your* imputations, not his.

Why do you conclude, for example, that he wants guns for protection
against "Black criminals and the Latin and Caribbean drug gangs" only,
and not against people he might consider as "white trash"?

You're putting words in his mouth.

As long as Marxists see the bogeyman of a racist behind every worker
whose views we don't like, we will never be able to engage with
actually existing workers.

Fred responds:

First of all, I did not put words in anyone's mouth.  I made an analysis of
this young agitator's line of gab. I did not claim he had said what I judged
him to mean.

But Ruthless did not read his own man, before rushing to his defense.  
For one of my analyses actually was a quote: 

"No. 2, immigrants. They should go back to Mexico." I noted that he did not
use the current popular defensive formulation of referring to "illegal
immigrants."  I think it is interesting that Ruthless sees nothing whatever
racist about this.

He seems to be the kind of antiracist who would deny that Hitler was a
racist because he said "Kill all the Jews" (not racist), not "Kill all the
kikes." (Racist! Bad!)

Ruthless also comments on my analysis of the young agitator's gun-craziness.

'Why do you conclude, for example, that he wants guns for protection
against "Black criminals and the Latin and Caribbean drug gangs" only,
and not against people he might consider as "white trash"?'

When Ruthless refers to "people he might consider as 'white trash'", he
confesses that he is as aware as I am that this is someone who thinks in
deeply racial terms.  Moreover, "white trash" is a concept organically
linked to the slavery and Jim Crow structure.  That is, the concept could
not exist without white racism and it is completely consistent and, in the
end, only consistent with white racism.

I accept thless' amendment, but it changes nothing in my argument.

Imade a point in my attempt to single out this individual that got no
response from Ruthless. The Times reporter, trying hard to be as clueless as
Rughless about race, wrote:

I wondered if he was a Republican. "Are you kidding?" he said. "I'm a
Democrat all the way. I hate Republicans."... 
Woods was for Hillary Clinton, and if Obama was the Democratic
nominee, he said he would vote for the Republican, John McCain, in
November.

  So I asked: What does this young man hate about Obama even more than he
hates Republicans? Inexperience? Don't think so.

Fred 


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