Re: [Marxism] Could Socialists not use "Great" before Britain!

[Einde O'Callaghan <einde@xxxxxx>]

Greg McDonald schrieb:
> John Edmunson wrote:
> 
> "Ireland has never been part of Britain, great or otherwise. The UK is
> the United Kingdom of Great Britain and (now) Northern Ireland. Great
> Britain relates to the whole island, including England, Scotland and
> Wales and predates the existence of those individual nations, or even
> the concept of nations as we understand them. So I don't have a problem
> with the term, but I do tend not to use the term UK as that does tend to
> suggest the legitimacy of British domination of Northern Ireland."
> Cheers,
> John
> 
> So what do you write instead of uk? Great Britain? If so, that brings  
> us back to the original criticism. but your comment on the 6 counties  
> dilemma in Ireland, together with your contribution regarding the  
> Celtic Roman provinces and the distinction between Brittany (the  
> lesser) and Great Britain (the greater), now makes my original usage  
> seem more correct.  But "Celtic Roman" provinces? Should we not  
> distinguish between the original Celts and the Roman invaders? Maybe  
> I'll just write la isla misteriosa.
> 
The Celtic Roman provinces were the areas now known as England and 
Wales. Southern Scotland (between Hadrians's Wall - roughly from 
Carlisle to Newcastle-upon-Tyne - and the Antonine Wall) was 
incorporated for only a short time. Armorica in Roman Gaul had, like the 
lrest of Gaul, been largely romanised, but was re-celticised, so to 
speak, by migrants from Britain during the period of the Saxon 
colonisation of southern and eastern Britain - hence the name Britannia 
Parva or Little Britain.

I suppose it would also be appropriate to point out that Cornwall, also 
a Celtic enclave, had a separate legal status down to at least Tudor 
times (and there are claims that it still does) - and indeed the title 
Prince of Wales is still linked to the title Duke of Cornwall.

Einde O'Callaghan

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