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Re: [Marxism] The SWP was Wrong about the Peace and Freedom Party, and Socialist Viewpoint ...
- To: Louis Proyect <lnp3@xxxxxxxxx>, Marxmail <marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [Marxism] The SWP was Wrong about the Peace and Freedom Party, and Socialist Viewpoint ...
- From: Bonnie Weinstein <giobon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:00:27 -0700
- User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006
Louis,
Wasn't it Mark who said that waiting for the working class to move was like
waiting for Godot? And you don't want me to talk about that?
But, I've said all I can. So I'll shut up now.
--Bonnie Weinstein
On 9/5/07 3:46 PM, "Louis Proyect" <lnp3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Bonnie Weinstein wrote:
>> The essence of communism is majority rule.
>
> It just dawned on me why I hate hearing this sort of thing. Back in
> 1978, when I was in my last few months in the SWP, I used to sit in
> branch meetings and listen to fellow party members get up during
> preconvention discussion or plenum reports and say things like: "The
> working class is the only class with the power to transform society" or
> "Capitalism is a system that will force working people to take action
> against the bosses." Why at the age of 33 was I being forced to attend a
> new members class?
>
> Bonnie, no matter what Eli Stephens says, I find this kind of abc's of
> socialism to be totally presumptuous. You really should study your posts
> before submitting them to the list to make sure that all this kind of
> obvious stuff is weeded out.
>
> There are people on this list who have spent decades in the
> revolutionary movement. They really don't need to hear that the essence
> of communism is majority rule or that the workplace is not a democratic
> environment.
>
> And here is the all-important reason.
>
> By stating the obvious, you are conveying the impression that you know
> something that we don't--or worse that we understand it and willfully
> act otherwise. The clear implication is that you are doing missionary
> work among lost souls, a most obnoxious stance to say the least.
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