Re: [Marxism] Nobody's waiting for nothing because capitalism's moving us along!

[Benjamin Morgan <foreverblaze89@xxxxxxxxx>]

   Comrade Ben:
   
  It seems nobody else was willing to do the work. While this leading florida 
green preaches independence rank in file with green ideology he talks about 
working with progressive democrats as a means of not isolating the party. 
However, with the democrats being the dominate party who's most likely to 
benifit from this quid pro quo relationship?
   
  Ben 
   
   
  Conflict in the Green Party: A response
   
  Mark S. kamleiter
   
  http://www.greens.org/s-r/39/39-19.html


  What if the ?realos? are, in reality, not so politically clever? Could it be 
that, in the depths of their beings, they simply do not really believe that the 
Green Party can actually break open the bipolar corporate party system? Might 
they be, therefore, very content to ride on the Progressive Movement without 
fundamentally challenging the existing political power structures? Are they so 
eager to be next to the ?power? that they will compromise Green Party 
independence and the dream of Greens across the country?   The reference to 
Germany in the ?realo? versus ?fundi? analysis is a perfect example of the 
wrongness of this ?realpolitic? analysis. Do the writers seriously wish to 
compare the American political scene with Germany? Germany has at least five 
relatively strong parties and an independent represented in the Bundestag. In 
countries with multiple parties it is common practice for parties to form 
coalitions to increase their influence and power. These coalitions are
 generally formed from positions of true independence, are built around toughly 
negotiated terms, and last only as long as they serve the member parties.   
This is the USA, the country with two overwhelmingly dominant political 
parties. These parties do not recognize the legitimacy of third parties. Our 
legal and electoral systems are built to prevent effective third parties. Our 
electoral districts are gerrymandered to the point that truly democratic 
elections are disappearing. The Democratic and Republican parties have a 
hammerlock on the system and they will never voluntarily allow the development 
of a true multiparty political system. So let?s talk ?realpolitic.? Do the 
writers think that the Democratic Party is going to be so happy with our 
collaboration with their liberals that they are going to open some political 
space for the Green Party? Do they seriously think that at some point the 
Democratic Party or even their PDA is going to say, ?This is a good time for the
 Greens to run candidates against a Democrat?? Or have the ?realos? decided 
this is a battle that cannot be won, so it is better to compromise and work 
under the domination of the Democrats? Let?s not equate the Green independence 
movement with isolationism. Across this country Greens are taking strong, 
independent Green positions while working in collaboration with non-Green 
groups and progressive Democrats. My local Green Party has an excellent 
reputation of being a good coalition partner in important community actions. 
This Green local has maintained the respect of the local activist community, 
while at the same time maintaining an unwaveringly independent Green stance. Of 
course the Green Party can collaborate with progressive Democrats on specific 
common, non-electoral issues. We can collaborate and be absolutely independent. 
We must collaborate from independent strength and arms-length negotiation. What 
we must not do is align this Party in any way with the PDA or any
 other such group. We must not support them, raise money for them, or encourage 
our members to join them or work under their leadership. We must not support 
their candidates, register voters for them, vote in their primaries, or 
otherwise be Democrats. 



?Whenever death may surprise us, let it be welcome if our battle cry has 
reached even one receptive ear and another hand reaches out to take up our 
arms.?
   
  ~ Ernesto "Che" Guevara
       
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