Re: [Marxism] What are the Greens, or waiting for the industrial proletarian Godot

[dave.walters@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Mark, when you say that the Greens never supported Democrats...I have to ask 
what you mean 
by "support". As far as I know, no Green organization ever sat down and 
stated/voted/decided "Lets 
call for a vote for the Democrats". No, they did the next best thing and voted 
NOT to contest 
the Democrats in "close elections". Green Party organizations engaged in vote 
swapping. The "Demo-
Green" split inside the GP organization(s) was *exactly* over supporting the 
Democrats. Green candidates as representatives of the GP would get up and make 
all sorts of pleas to "get rid of Bush". You  know this because you were 
involved in fighting this!

So it's malarky that the Greens "never supported the Democrats". Their whole 
national orientation 
in 2004 was over just that and how to feel good about themselves doing it. Read 
the quote from M. 
Bemjamin who played a role of  "Greens supporting Democrats". She did it with 
flying colors.

I would agree with Bonnie about Nader. I thought he made more backhanded 
remarks about "Getting 
the Democrats back on track" the first time around, when he was officially a 
Green Party candidate. 
It brought some boos at the Mission High School meeting I attended in 2000.

I would disagree wtih Bonnie about her assertion that one can only endorse 
Socialists or criticizing a 
party that wasn't socialist: the idea the SWP fought for for decades (or, 
properly put: the idea 
they supported) was for a Labor Party based on the unions. That was the key 
issue, not that it 
have a socialist program, although they stated they would fight for one.

David
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