Re: [Marxism] Tim Wise: What Kind of Card is Race? (Re: Barry Bonds)

["howard beeth" <beeth.howard@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I think Tim's essay is wise: historical, time-comparative, analytical, fact 
supported, written with restraint, super effective. For those of us who work in 
the classroom, it would be a good reading assignment for our students (and 
possibly some colleagues). 



Notwithstanding:



1. What about "the loyalty trap" re: African Americans--the tendency to circle 
the wagons when under perceived attack, resulting in an inclination to suspend 
self-criticism when it is needed?



2. What about "the guilt trap" re: progressives--the tendency to defer 
automatically to the opinions/positions of historically oppressed groups, also 
resulting in an inclination to suspend criticism when it is needed?



3. What about the substantial gains of the modern freedom struggle (AKA the 
Civil Rights Movement) which changed the USA in important ways, making it 
complicated to compare conditions before with conditions after (JR Robinson vs. 
B Bonds, white racism then vs. white racism now)? For instance, I have heard it 
argued that the modern freedom struggle changed white thinking/behavior more so 
than that of blacks. 



I should add that I saw a joint interview with 2 sportswriters on PBS the other 
night--Bob Costas and a black writer for the NYTs--and I thought Costas, who 
was critical of Bonds, made a stunningly persuasive case.













 --- On Sat 08/11, Mark Lause < MLause@xxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:

From: Mark Lause [mailto: MLause@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

To: marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:51:45 -0400

Subject: Re: [Marxism] Tim Wise: What Kind of Card is Race? (Re: Barry Bonds)



Gee, fuck.  Racism exists.  I never knew that until I read what these 
people<br>wrote.<br><br>ML<br><br><br><br><br><br>________________________________________________<br>YOU
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