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Re: [Marxism] Gorbachev defends Putin's methods
From: Louis Proyect <lnp3@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition
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Date sent: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:08:51 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Marxism] Gorbachev defends Putin's methods
> Walter Lippmann wrote:
> > Under the domination of Stalinism, the USSR built itself up enough that
> > it could resist Germany's attacks.
>
> Walter, have you joined the CPUSA? I haven't read such feeble attempts at
> ex post facto justification of Stalin's rule outside Political Affairs. We
> don't need to get into a prolonged discussion about Stalin here, but it is
> pretty clear that WWII (ie., Germany's attacks) could have been prevented
> by a revolutionary foreign policy and democracy at home. After the
> Wehrmacht invaded the USSR, it was supported by Ukrainian peasants. If
> people felt that they had something to fight for, the invasion would have
> not gone so well initially. Stalin was able to beat back the Nazis through
> appealing to "Mother Russia" and through Draconian discipline imposed on
> Soviet fighters. This period is a terrible indictment of Stalin's rule.
> Period.
I hope I am not rehashing a Stalin-Trotsky debate.
However, I would place a couple of divides between Stalin,
"Stalinism", and the Soviet Union.
Stalin did all that was at his hands to make German policies
succesful.
Stalinists did all what was in _their_ hands to defend the country
from a foreign invader.
The USSR, taken as a collective subject, "built itself up enough that
it could resist Germany's attacks".
I don't think that your positions and Walter's collide as deeply as
you believe.
Este correo lo ha enviado
Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky
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"La patria tiene que ser la dignidad arriba y el regocijo abajo".
Aparicio Saravia
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- Thread context:
- [Marxism] CBO statistics [was: The absence of real forces [was: The low point]], (continued)
Re: [Marxism] The absence of real forces [was: The low point],
Joaquin Bustelo Sat 04 Aug 2007, 01:42 GMT
Re: [Marxism] Gorbachev defends Putin's methods,
Nestor Gorojovsky Mon 30 Jul 2007, 17:35 GMT
[Marxism] Ingmar Bergman 1918-2007,
Louis Proyect Mon 30 Jul 2007, 17:34 GMT
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