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Re: [Marxism] Paper on Japanese nuclear reactors and earth quakes
D. Walters writes:
<< Lajany is welcome to question how all this energy
is being used. I?ve always tried to point out that
changing to CFB and other ?home conservation? methods
are of limited effect. In my state, only about 20% of
all electrical energy is used by ?people? at home
anyway. The rest is commercial (building, schools,
offices, etc) and industrial (food processing, refineries,
commodity production, etc). People are still going
to use electricity for the minimum at the very least
but also some small luxuries:air conditioning/heating,
a bigger TV, refrigeration, etc. Within this people
can be efficient but growth is inevitable.
The growing of the India and Chinese economies is
almost a force of nature. For sure it?s a force
of imperialism seeking new markets and developing
old ones. But there is a ?base national? interest
in moving their economies forward. While a needed
socialist revolution would be great in either country,
I doubt any such a revolution would do much to slow
down energy usage. The degree of civilization in
a society, based on simply a ?better? use of the
productive forces for human need, is still going to
require massive amounts of electrical energy. There
is no way around this. I believe nuclear energy is
the only way to provide even under the best of
circumstances (massive conservation along the structure
lines advocated by Joaquin) the energy needed to lift
the worlds masses out of poverty.
The point is, right now, for the immediate future,
the loss of those megawatts in Japan is going to be
felt not just by the Japanese, but by all of us for
the megatons of carbon that is going to be shot into
the air as a result of those units being on line.
That's a fact on the ground now.
David>>
The problem with this is that it takes what is necessary
for the metabolism of the capitalist system today and
projects it as being necessary for metabolism of human
society for all time. An understandable confusion, since
our thinking is subject to powerful conditioning forces.
(Good to see you land such powerful punches on the straw
man there, in the form of "household conservation"
too David -- keep up the good work).
The reader will also note that I did not question "how"
energy is used, since in principle we can break this down
into, say concrete production, construction of highway
infrastructure, vehicle manufacture, advertising, and
other similar categories along these lines. The question
I raised is to what purpose is this energy being used,
which is a different, though related issue. Let us take
for example the construction industry in Japan which
has been described by Gavan McCormack as playing the
role sink of value that is occupied by the military--
industrial complex in the US economy:
Japan?s public-works sector has grown to be three times
the size of that of Britain, the US or Germany, employing
7 million people, or 10 per cent of the workforce, and
spending between 40 and 50 trillion yen a year?around
$350 billion, 8 per cent of GDP or two to three times
that of other industrial countries. Naturally there
have been short-term benefits for many, not least in
terms of soaking up unemployment during the long 1990s
recession. Gradually, however, public-works infrastructure
has been replaced by ?extrastructure??developments
undertaken for their own sake, while the collusive
alliance at the system?s core has corrupted both
politics and society. Japan now has more dams and roads
per unit of land than the continental US. Half its
coastline and most of its rivers have been wrapped in
concrete, 90 per cent of its tidal wetlands have been
drained and lost, its ground-water is drastically
depleted and its bio-diversity under threat.
Gavan McCormack, New Left Review, Jan-Feb 2002,
http://newleftreview.org/?view=2365
In other words, construction which is the largest single sector
of the Japanese economy has to grow, not to meet social need,
but simply because it exists, and because the absence of
further growth would devalourize large amounts of existing
capital.
I should say, this is not to single out Japanese capitalism which is
hardly unique in its dependence on socially worthless and materially
wasteful patterns of production and consumption for its metabolism.
As for the brand of "realism" that argues that the parts of humanity
that have been so far "left behind" by capitalist growth have no alternative
but to attempt to reproduce the "success" of, say, Japanese capital,
and to reproduce all over the world the same social metabolism
that exists here, this is the realism of fools, a recipe for the collective
suicide of humanity.
Lajany Otum
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- Re: [Marxism] Paper on Japanese nuclear reactors and earth quakes, (continued)
- Re: [Marxism] Paper on Japanese nuclear reactors and earth quakes,
dave . walters Thu 26 Jul 2007, 03:35 GMT
- Re: [Marxism] Paper on Japanese nuclear reactors and earth quakes,
dave . walters Thu 26 Jul 2007, 04:06 GMT
- Re: [Marxism] Paper on Japanese nuclear reactors and earth quakes,
Lajany Otum Thu 26 Jul 2007, 05:49 GMT
- Re: [Marxism] Paper on Japanese nuclear reactors and earth quakes,
Bob Hopson Thu 26 Jul 2007, 17:37 GMT
- Re: [Marxism] Paper on Japanese nuclear reactors and earth quakes,
Lajany Otum Fri 27 Jul 2007, 01:29 GMT
- Re: [Marxism] Paper on Japanese nuclear reactors and earth quakes,
Lajany Otum Fri 27 Jul 2007, 01:55 GMT
- Re: [Marxism] Moderator's note,
Walter Lippmann Wed 25 Jul 2007, 22:21 GMT
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