Re: [Marxism] The ISO in Zimbabwe

[Louis Proyect <lnp3@xxxxxxxxx>]

> The reason you have been going in circles with the ``stubborn 
> comrades'' around the world who continue to insist that socialists 
> must democratically organise themselves to engage in political 
> activity, including the DSP, is that you base your accusations of 
> ``Zinovievism'' etc. on abstract assertions of how you think things 
> are (no doubt based on your negative experiences of the US SWP, 
> which incidently have also shaped how the DSP organises today) 
> rather than attempting to find out the actual practice and politics 
> and results of the comrades involved.
>
> Norm.

For comrades new to Marxmail, a word of explanation might be in 
order. The group that Norm belongs to is modeled on the group that I 
used to belong to in the USA from 1967 to 1979. After that group went 
nuts, Norm's group in broke with it. They hoped to build a party in 
Australia that would stick to the "good" aspects of the group that I 
belonged to before it went nuts. But I think that it was nuts to 
begin with. My analysis of why it went nuts is here, along with a 
discussion of Leninism in general:

http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/organization/lenin_in_context.htm

I think that the group that Norm belongs to and the state capitalist 
groups carry out very good work. We would be worse off if they 
disappeared. I just think that they are constitutionally incapable of 
breaking through a certain threshold because of built-in sectarian 
baggage they refuse to abandon. Unfortunately, since they don't 
acknowledge that there is such baggage to begin with, it is doubtful 
that they will ever do so. 


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