Re: [Marxism] The ISO in Zimbabwe

[Einde O'Callaghan <einde@xxxxxx>]

Louis Proyect schrieb:
> > Before I saw Aaron's reply I was going to write:
> >   Louis, your post says nothing about why what the ISO does in 
> > Zimbabwe  is off. Failing that it looks very much like gratuitous 
> > sectarianism.
> >   To which I would now just add:
> >   Yours truly,
> >   Andy -- a REAL Cannonite
>
> Yes, that is true, Andy. You are a real Cannonite.
>
> As far as what the ISO is doing in Zimbabwe, it would have a hard time I 
> think in becoming a true vanguard even if it dumped its "Leninist" 
> baggage overboard. For example, they characterize Mugabe as a fascist, 
> which is pretty ill-conceived from a Marxist perspective. While googling 
> around, I discovered that Callinicos is
> from Zimbabwe originally. Maybe that played a role in getting 
> something off the ground there. It is really pretty amazing (or maybe 
> not so amazing) that the Cliffites have not a single Third World section 
> except in Zimbabwe.

Louis, your non-sectarian sectarianism with respect to any organisation 
whatsoever is showing. In addition to Zimbabwe, there are groups in a 
number of other African countries and elsewhere, not all of which we 
broadcast on the Net since they are illegal and subject to persecution. 
This is known as being careful about the security and survival of the 
organisation, which is perhaps a concept that is a bit difficult to 
grasp from the safety of a computer centre in an American university, 
despite such things as the Patriot Act.

> Btw, differences over Zimbabwe led to a split in 
> their international movement: http://www.angelfire.com/journal/iso/
There are no documents about ISOZIM (at least I can't see any) on that 
page, which is dealing with ancient history anyway - no documents later 
than 2001.

There were differences about the situation in Zimbabwe a number of years 
ago, but they didn't actually lead to split in the IST.

Einde O'Callaghan

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