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[Walter Lippmann <walterlx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

well, at least you and I can have a civilized discussion,
and we can provide a good model for anyone else who
would like to do something similar.

Chao,

-----Original Message-----
>From: Marvin Gandall <marvgandall@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Oct 15, 2006 9:25 AM
>To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition <marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [Marxism] Learning about China from media accounts
>
>Walter wrote:
>
>> Similarly, Anita Chan's most interesting report on China's trade unions
>> contains this significant element, also not the kind we normally read
>> on Marxmail, but a hopeful sign nevertheless:
>
>> http://www.japanfocus.org/products/topdf/2217
>> ..The ACFTU?s confrontation with Wal-Mart has opened up a means for
>> reformers to
>> operate in future, and has set a precedent for Chinese workers to
>> take on their employers and to demand union branches. ..Under China?s
>> labor law and the
>> present political situation, they may find this politically feasible
>> and more productive than fighting to set up autonomous trade unions
>> as advocated by China Labor Bulletin and some Western trade unions
>> that call on China to permit autonomous trade unions.
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>This is why the unionization of the Walmart stores could be potentially
>significant for Chinese and US workers, and not to be dismissed out of hand.
>But there is only the official shell of a union there now, and the Chinese
>leadership will be very careful about losing foreign investment and creating
>precedents for workers in Chinese-owned enterprises. This should become more
>clear, however, when details are made known about the powers which the union
>will have at Walmart.
>
>Louis has already commented on Will Hutton's Guardian reference to to
>one-party rule and the lack of democratic political rights as not being
>indicative that the mode of production is not capitalist. The Chinese
>leadership was very influenced when it embarked on its reforms by the "Asian
>Tiger" model of development in South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, and Malaysia,
>all of whom relied on authoritarian one-party states to maintain stability
>and facilitate the consolidation and financing of large private or
>jointly-owned  firms capable of competing in world markets.
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