Re: [Marxism] Marxism and Conspiracy

[David Thorstad <binesi@xxxxxxxxx>]

Mr./Comrade Austin:
My advice to you is to chill and reflect before you speak.
   You must be very young indeed not to realize how wrong your 
assumptions about the Vietnam War and the "lies that were used to lead 
the US" into it are. Ditto the Tonkin Gulf charade, a Democrat scam no 
different from anything the Bushgang has cooked up (and which, true to 
form as the historic party of war, the Democrats have endorsed from the 
gitgo).  All kinds of us, even young students like myself at the time, 
saw through this phony justification for bombing the shit out of North 
Vietnam. You are not even comparing apples and oranges. Assuming you are 
too young to have lived through the Vietnam period, have you ever 
researched it before jumping to conclusions?  The same goes for your 
many posts on 9/11.
   I mean these comments in a fraternal spirit. Try perhaps to shed 
light rather than merely spouting off?
David

Austin, Andrew wrote:
> How many people do you think knew about the lies that were used to lead
> the US into the Vietnam War?  How long did those lies remain hidden.
> Would it have been a reasonable argument then to claim that it would be
> impossible for so many people to keep hidden something like a conspiracy
> that led a country into a war in which more than 50,000 US soldiers and
> millions of civilians were killed?  Sure, the truth came out.  But how
> long did it take?  The government only this year admitted what some of
> us came to believe, namely that they lied about the Gulf of Tonkin.  Not
> that the Gulf of Tonkin was on the scale of 9-11, but the point remains
> that it is logically fallacious to argue that something must not be true
> because nobody whose word you would trust and wouldn't malign as crazy
> has come forward to say it's not true.  As long as we're speculating,


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