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RE: [Marxism] Marxism and Conspiracy
First, I never even remotely suggested that the man knew about the
attacks in advance. Nobody I have ever heard talk about this
subject has ever suggested such a thing. Why did you go there?
You have lost me. If Larry Silverstein gave the orders to bring down
WTC 7 with explosives, how did he get them in there? I assume that he
didn't call up the local demolitions experts after the Twin Towers
had been hit by the jets. So if the order went out for several tons
of TNT, it had to be before 9/11.
Second, if somebody had a rational reason to believe that he did
know in advance, it wouldn't be ludicrous. It would be a question
that would need an answer. I don't fear questions and
answers. Copernicus' notions of the structure of the solar system
were ludicrous to virtually everybody.
What could that rational reason be other than being part of a vast
conspiracy of Arab CIA agents pretending to be jihadists with a love
so deep for American imperialism that they gave up their lives to
help George W. Bush go to war against the Taliban? A Taliban that the
FT described as being favored by the oil companies as the only power
that could insure that a pipeline could be built between Pakistan and
Turkmenistan?
As for politics, everything about this discussion is political, but
some of it in a oddly warped way considering the context. All I'm
saying is that we shouldn't ridicule people who ask obvious
questions. It just alienates them. It makes us look hateful and
closeminded or worse. You sure don't ease their concerns by giving
them the runaround or speaking on subjects you haven't bothered to look into.
I am not interested in a dialogue with the people who made "Loose
Change", etc. Over the years I have learned to how to draw closer to
people moving in my own direction and to battle with those who are
creating obstacles for the Marxist left. In the latter camp, I would
include the Black Block, hardened ABB ideologists, etc. Politics is
fundamentally about deciding who is a friend and who is an adversary.
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- Thread context:
- RE: [Marxism] Marxism and Conspiracy, (continued)
- RE: [Marxism] Marxism and Conspiracy,
Austin, Andrew Sat 09 Sep 2006, 17:29 GMT
- RE: [Marxism] Marxism and Conspiracy,
Austin, Andrew Sat 09 Sep 2006, 17:22 GMT
- RE: [Marxism] Marxism and Conspiracy,
Louis Proyect Sat 09 Sep 2006, 17:34 GMT
- RE: [Marxism] Marxism and Conspiracy,
Austin, Andrew Sat 09 Sep 2006, 18:01 GMT
- RE: [Marxism] Marxism and Conspiracy,
Louis Proyect Sat 09 Sep 2006, 18:17 GMT
- RE: [Marxism] Marxism and Conspiracy,
Austin, Andrew Sat 09 Sep 2006, 18:38 GMT
- Re: [Marxism] Marxism and Conspiracy,
Intense Red Sat 09 Sep 2006, 23:36 GMT
- Re: [Marxism] Marxism and Conspiracy,
Intense Red Sat 09 Sep 2006, 23:28 GMT
- Re: [Marxism] Marxism and Conspiracy,
Intense Red Sat 09 Sep 2006, 22:10 GMT
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