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[Marxism] Re: Marxism and Conspiracy




On Sep 9, 2006, at 11:17 AM, Austin, Andrew wrote:

All that to one side, here's what I think, and I base this on the character of the counterarguments presented. I think that some (most?) Marxists believe that if they allow other Marxists to ask rational questions of the official 9-11 account without calling them "idiots" or "lunatics" that the enemies of Marxism will paint Marxists as crazy. Whether they admit it, or even whether they realize it, it's something of a political-practical move to distance the community from those whom the bourgeois authorities and media would label crazy and thus avoid tarnishing the whole community with the label. "Let the right wingers believe in conspiracy theories. Marxists use structural analysis. We can't be accused of conspiracism." (I am still trying to decide if the cry is at least noble in its intention. Theoretically it's impoverished because it leads to a type of functionalism when practiced in the formulaic way it too often is in e-mail discussions.) In any case, I think we should realize that, for many of our critics, we're already crazy. Marxists believe the entire capitalist system is premised on the systematic exploitation of the working class - and everybody knows that's not true. You can't get any crazier than to believe that the good people who bring us the American Dream are actually exploiting the people they serve. It's not like you could keep something like that a secret if it were true. We're crazy for believing that the US state makes war for profit. We're crazy when we say that the United States and Israel engage in terrorism or that they ever act without at least noble intentions. But at least "we aren't so crazy that we would doubt key elements of the event that the Bush administration has used to justify the expansion of imperialism and the police state."

It is true that Marxists, often in argument within our own ranks, go back again and again to political economy and the basic structure of imperialism. I have been struck by this as I graze through the 14 Trotsky miscellany. Great for the politics and falling asleep as well. Yet this does not prevent Marxists from also discussing these events on a historical or even emotional plane, which Trotsky also does, particularly in interviews with the bourgeois press. The article by Pikser, posted earlier today by dbachmozart, expressed in a different tone, is in line with what Marxists need to write. I don't think that the enemies of Marxism would paint this as crazy, although in their manipulated focus on what to do tomorrow they probably consider it irrelevant.

To that I say so what. If we were winning over the majority, there would even be this discussion. To admit that we are in a minority does not mean that we have to agree that everyone thinks those who are in a minority are crazy.

Brian Shannon




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