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RE: [Marxism] Cockburn on 9/11 conspiracy nuts
- To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition <marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition <marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [Marxism] Cockburn on 9/11 conspiracy nuts
- From: "Austin, Andrew" <austina@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:53:29 -0500
- Thread-index: AcbSzMwoIYhtGahaRjGb+bmjUSNBOgACvDAb
- Thread-topic: [Marxism] Cockburn on 9/11 conspiracy nuts
The function of the "conspiracy theory" charge is to dissuade people from
questioning elements of the 9-11 story. Its function is to shut down rational
thought by equating it with insanity. The government doesn't want people
questioning any aspect of the 9-11 story, and when Marxist help the government
achieve that end by ridiculing their comrades who raise questions about it...
well, that's odd, don't you think?
If one is prepared to dismiss something because it does not fit their model of
the way some feature of the world behaves then one is practicing ideology not
science. I have a reasonably good grasp of the way bourgeois society behaves,
and after Nazi Germany I wouldn't put anything past the capitalist class.
I read the commission report. The government did not convince me that their
version is the correct one. The question remains open for me.
Andrew
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From: marxism-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Lou Paulsen
Sent: Thu 9/7/2006 5:25 PM
To: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition
Subject: RE: [Marxism] Cockburn on 9/11 conspiracy nuts
Andrew, here and in succeeding paragraphs you create a dichotomy between
"accepting the official 9-11 story" and believing that the US government blew
up the WTC. I think we are ALL open to believing that "the official story"
about 9/11 as about everything else is full of holes, but that doesn't mean
that "the official story" must be wrong on every point. We have had people
post here that Darwinian evolution of humans is suspect because it is "the
official story" and that global warming is also now "the official story", but
this doesn't mean that it is bold Marxist iconoclasm to come out against those
theories. The official story was that Pearl Harbor was a raid by Japanese
planes, not a hoax conducted by US volunteers in copies of Japanese planes, and
I suppose I believe that official story as well.
I don't think that people who think the US government blew up the WTC need
psychiatric treatment, and I don't dismiss their views because it's not the
official story. I dismiss their views because I consider them to be wildly
unrealistic in their model of how the bourgeois state behaves (and because they
don't have a fraction of the amount of evidence they would need to make me
alter my model of how the bourgeois state behaves).
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