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[Marxism] What do _I_ mean by Fascism here?
> Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 00:39:34 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Alan Bradley <alanb1000@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: re: Soviet survival (was Re: [Marxism] Challenge to Lenin &
>
> From: "Nestor Gorojovsky"
> > If we include "right wing" (that is, European or
> > Japanese Fascist movements) in the general
> > definition of "revolutions", then we see that the
> > difference between left wing revolutions (those
> > intended to take the working class to power) and
> > right wing revolutions (those intended to "restore
> > the State") is that while the working class could
> > not, did not want, was unable to, or found it too
> > suicidal to take the power that the petty bourgeois
> > radicals offered her, the bourgeoisie did not
> > tremble at the very same move.
>
> This is actually a bit of a mess.
>
> Do "right wing revolutions" include reactionary coups
> of the Pinochet and Suharto variety?
No, Alan, they don't. Not even Franco.
We might like it or not, but Fascism was a _mass_ movement which set
itself to the task of radically reconstructing society. And this is
why it was so dangerous, BTW. All the examples you gave were coups
made in the name of "law and order".
Hadn't Fascism had an appeal to the masses under the whip of the
crisis, then why the tactical debate on Germany during the 30s? The
masses could waver -and _did_ waver- between Communists and Fascists,
because both pretended to be _revolutionary_. And the rank and file
of both movements _believed_ to be revolutionary.
Neither the Sukarno, Pinochet, coups, and similar, were Fascist in
_this_ sense, nor to be sure in most others. I am speaking of the
concrete historical entity Fascism (or "Fascisms"), and limiting
myself to the imperialist nations with bourgeoisies in critical
situation of the 30s.
I wouldn't even dare say that such a regime as, for example, Horty's
was Fascist in this sense.
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Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky
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