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[Marxism] Marxism-list: Lenin and Trotsky experts failed challenge
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- Subject: [Marxism] Marxism-list: Lenin and Trotsky experts failed challenge
- From: Steve Masterson <steve4masterson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 22:01:15 +0100 (BST)
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Comrades,
Not one of the 3,000+ members on the three Marxist/socialist
lists I put the challenge to has come up with any quotes from
Lenin or Trotsky, of them really understanding the essence of
Karl Marx's method. I did not expect anyone to come up with
the Trotsky or Lenin quotes. I was actually checking to see if
anyone had read the writings of the last decade of Cyril Smith,
who understands Marx's essential driving force and politics,
of which human development in resistance and revolution
against capitalism is key.
On this Marxism list, I got one other response after frenzied
dozens of other false attempts and evasions, from another guy
who does understand the essential Marx, and that was
Michael Lebowitz, who wrote the Deutcher award book,
'Beyond Capital'. Glad to discover you Michael!
Michael Lebowitz, I have just researched, is in Venezuela
doing some very important work at present around workers
control of factories and the revolutionary students movement.
Again, he couldn't come up with any quotes from Lenin or
Trotsky, either ? only from himself. I suggest anyone who
wants to understand Marx, just Google these two comrades
and get reading.
I will start readers off with two articles. The first by Cyril Smith
written in 1996,
?How can humanity make itself what it is in essence??
http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/smith-cyril/works/millenni/smith3.htm
Michael Lebowitz has also written similar material on the
real Marx. However, I have found a most amazing article
from last October that puts into practice the real Marx on
the highest level of conscious revolutionary practice I have
come across in my life.
http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/lebowitz241005.html
Michael has moved from Canada to Venezuela, to situate
himself at a key place at a key juncture in history.
He is talking a revolutionary humanist language, in the
language workers will understand from their own experiences,
based not on Lenin or Trotsky, but directly on Marx himself.
Indeed, as Cyril and Michael state, the job is to go beyond
Marx and theoretically complete Marx?s own unfinished
work ? essentially as a revolutionary practice which aids
human/worker self-development through workers? control,
resistance and revolution.
Before I joined my first vanguard-elitist group nearly 30 years
ago I used to read Marx and his human-developmental essence.
Only in the last month am I only just beginning to re-read the real
Marx once again - but on a new level ? it is very exciting.
For anyone who wants to read my original challenge to this list
go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GreenLeft_discussion/message/33253
comradely regards
- Steve
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