[Marxism] Marxism-list: Lenin and Trotsky experts failed challenge

[Steve Masterson <steve4masterson@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Comrades, 
   
  Not one of the 3,000+ members on the three Marxist/socialist
  lists I put the question to has come up with any quotes from
  Lenin or Trotsky, of them really understanding the essence of
  Karl Marx's method. I did not expect anyone to come up with
  the Trotsky or Lenin quotes. I was actually checking to see if
  anyone had read the writings of the last decade of Cyril Smith,
  who, understands Marx's essential driving force and politics,
  of which human development in resistance and revolution
  against capitalism is key.
  
On this Marxism list, I got one other response after frenzied
dozens of other false attempts and evasions, from another guy
  who does understand the essential Marx, and that was
  Michael Lebowitz, who wrote the Deutcher award book,
  'Beyond Capital'.
   
  Lebowitz is in Venezuela doing some very important work
  at present around workers control of factories and the
  revolutionary students movement.
   
  Again, he couldn't come up with any quotes from Lenin or
  Trotsky, either ? only from himself. I suggest anyone who
  wants to understand Marx, just Google these two comrades
  and get reading.
   
  I will start readers off with two articles. The first by Cyril Smith
  written in 1996,
  ?How can humanity make itself what it is in essence??
   
  
http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/smith-cyril/works/millenni/smith3.htm
   
  Michael Lebowitz has also written similar material on the
  real Marx. However, I have done a little research on Michael
  and found a most amazing article from last October that puts
  into practice the real Marx on the highest level of conscious
  revolutionary practice I have come across in my life. 
   
  http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/lebowitz241005.html
   
  Michael has moved from Canada to Venezuela ? and so
  has placed himself at a key place at a key juncture in history.
  He is talking a revolutionary humanist language, in the
  language workers will understand from their own experiences,
  based not on Lenin or Trotsky, but directly on Marx himself.
   
  Indeed, as Cyril and Michael state, the job is to go beyond
  Marx and theoretically complete Marx?s own unfinished 
  work ? essentially as a revolutionary practice which aids
  human/worker self-development through workers? control,
  resistance and revolution.
  
Before I joined my first vanguard-elitist group nearly 30 years
  ago I used to read Marx and his human-development essence.
  Only in the last month am I only just beginning to read the real
  Marx once again - but on a new level ? it is very exciting.

For anyone who wants to read my original challenge to this list
  go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GreenLeft_discussion/message/33253

comradely regards
   
  - Steve

                
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