Re: [Marxism] Female Pundits Could Use Help With Hate Mail

["Ian Pace" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

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From: "sartesian" <sartesian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition"
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Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Female Pundits Could Use Help With Hate Mail


> This discussion is pathetic.  A real embarrassment.  The moderator uses
> a phrase that simply should not be used by Marxists, given its
> enforcement of the degrading stereotypes of  women;  a woman objects,
> and we get 2 to 3 days of bullshit, twists, turns and the like
> pretending to be semiotics, Marxism, just the real world.
>
> And from there it's only made a turn for the worse.
>
> Second time in the last couple of months I  recall the moderator
> threatening to shutdown the list if behavior didn't improve.  Moderator,
> first moderate thyself.
>
> Give us a break.
>
> If the moderator or anybody else feels the need to use tough language,
> substitute cocksucker for all other terms.  Like Academic Cocksuckers.
> Or a Cruise Missile Cocksuckers.  Or any other time we feel a need for a
> profane description.   Cocksuckers.  Oh... but that's a profane term,
> that's offensive, we are transgressing sensibilities if we use that
> term...?
>
> Guess what, if that's so, you got your cocksucking sensibilities all
> fucked up motherfuckers, because those terms are less exploitative than
> the term whore.
>
> What a bunch of cocksucking bullshit.
Can we try something like rhinoceros-wankers instead? Performing an act of
manual erotic stimulation upon a rhinoceros seems reasonably gender-neutral
to me; I also can't see any connection with nationality, ethnicity,
gay/straightness either, unless you think this is a derogatory comment about
those who tend to live in the vicinity of rhinos more often, and thus is a
surreptitious slur upon a lot of people from Africa and Asia, part of a late
colonial strategy to shore up Western rationalist supremacy? Oh, also the
term 'wankers' is British slang rather than American, as such perhaps it
betokens a vicious and loathing desire to undo the effects of the 1773
revolution?

Loosen up, people.

Solidarity (realising that the allusion to 'solids' probably betokens some
phallocentricity - should I be saying 'fluidarity' instead to give a
differently-gendered alternative? In case you think, I'm being totally
facetitious, read Luce Irigaray on solid/fluid mechanics),

Ian



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