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Re: [Marxism] correction on: Did Cannon havea"liquidationist"position on the Black question in the U.S.?
Hence I think it's more accurate and
useful to see African Americans and Jews per se
as oppressed castes.
--
I prefer, partly because I always thought of myself as part of a people
and never as part of a caste a la ancient India or other very
precapitalist places, the bourgeois term nation that of caste. I also
know that Black people in the United
States prefer the modern language of nation to that of caste. Of course,
I now that Trotsky stretched the term caste quite openly and explicitly
to apply to the Soviet bureaucracy, but that was not to deny that the
Soviet bureaucracy had a nationality. He thought they were
Russian and the Georgian Stalin thought so too.
So I prefer the word nation, which is consistent with my consciousness
as a rather modern secular Jew and also consistent with the
self-consciousness of Blacks whose nationhood originates with
capitalist slavery. Nick prefers to torture the word caste, partly
because the word nation causes his anxiety level to increase
unacceptably, for reasons I do not fully grasp (although I suspect they
have more to do with Australia than the United States).
I say nation.... You say caste.... Let's call the whole thing off.
Fred Feldman
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- Thread context:
- [Marxism] US Blacks: caste, race, or nation?, (continued)
- [Marxism] Ecuador, 6,
rrubinelli Mon 06 Mar 2006, 02:51 GMT
- Re: [Marxism] correction on: Did Cannon havea"liquidationist"position on the Black question in the U.S.?,
Fred Feldman Mon 06 Mar 2006, 02:16 GMT
- [Marxism] Previously unpublished manuscript by Ernesto Che Guevara,
Ocean Press Mon 06 Mar 2006, 01:52 GMT
- Re: [Marxism] correction on: Did Cannon have a"liquidationist"position on the Black question in the U.S.?,
Nick Fredman Mon 06 Mar 2006, 01:38 GMT
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