[Marxism] RE: SWP and the turn to industry

["howard beeth" <beeth.howard@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Among revolutionaries, it is probably pretty well agreed that employment is 
first a political decision and only secondarily a personal one. Perhaps (we 
don't know) the SWP had what it thought was a compelling reason to ask Sarge to 
switch from one industry to another in Detroit, while he felt an compelling 
justification not to do this. Fine--this is probably an ordinary kind of 
problem between cadre and org. I'm sure it's happened much more than just this 
once. But it doesn't have to result in cadre expulsion and the complete loss of 
the cadre's talent. Instead, for example, the cadre and org could agree that 
the cadre would cease being a member but would remain an active Supporter of 
the org. And there are other possible alternative solutions to expulsion. One 
could do a cost/benefit analysis on each of them. However, until we have data 
and accurate participant testimony about these matters, little can be learned 
from these experiences, however important they may be and
however important the lessons we could learn from them may be. No data, no 
learning; no learning, no possibility of improvement. Not a pleasing prospect.









 --- On Wed 03/01, Joseph Callahan < JOEANDCAROLINE@xxxxxxx > wrote:

From: Joseph Callahan [mailto: JOEANDCAROLINE@xxxxxxx]

To: marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 21:46:22 -0600

Subject: [Marxism] RE: SWP and the turn to industry



Brian asked about the term "route."  The SWP was using this term<br>in the 80's 
to describe the blows dealt to the workers by the capitalists<br>for the most 
part without resistance (and most cases where there was<br>some like PATCO and 
the copper miners, the workers were soundly defeated). <br>I hope that is 
clearer.<br><br>Howard Heeth expressed regret for Sarge's expulsion, and I 
certainly felt<br>bad for him having to suffer such an outrage (being an 
autoworker in <br>Detroit, what a crime against the proletariat!).  On the 
other hand at least<br>now he doesn't have to continue to endure the nonsense 
anymore.<br><br>Joe 
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