Re: [Marxism] "Iran's Ahmadinejad says Holocaust a myth"

["Mahmood ketabchi" <mekchi@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Wayne wrote:

"Say what you will about Ahmadinejad and the clerics; I'm with you.  
Iran will not be liberated under capitalism.  But remember - the
alternative at this point is not a workers' revolution in Iran, but the
brutal subjugation of the country by imperialism.  This has got to be
fought, even if it means that the existence of the clerical regime has
to be tolerated for the time being."

Because the US government is plotting against Iran, it does not mean that the 
US left has to get in bed with bunch of criminals blood thirsty.  Instead of 
that, they can put their support behind the powerful mass movement of students, 
workers, and women against the fascist Islamic regime.  One reason why 
Ahamadinejad is making the kind of statements he has been making about Jewish 
people and Israel is because he truly wants a confrontation (hoping that it 
would be limited) with the US and the Israeli governments.  In case such 
confrontation occurs, he thinks he can find an opportunity to launch a massive 
attack against the mass movement in Iran.   They did that before by provoking a 
war with Sadam Hussein and by taking over the American embassy. 

I am really sick and tired of people saying that workers revolution is not an 
alternative.  when will it be?  Maybe never if we listen to advices like yours. 
 Iranian left was powerful even during the Iranian revolution of 1979. The west 
and US government helped the Islamic regime to come to power so that the left 
in Iran would be pushed aside and massacred by the Iranian bourgeoisie that 
chose Islam and the Mullahs as their cover.  Today,  Iranian communist are much 
more mature and better organized than they were before.   Communist do have a 
chance to go for the political power if there is a mass political upheaval in 
the country.  Communism is alive and powerful in Iran. 

First of all, It is easy for you to say let's tolerate the Islamic regime.  You 
do not see their gun on your head.  It is quite arrogant and in sensitive for 
you to make that kind of statement.  Moreover, it is outright nationalism; you 
want people in Iran to tolerate the brutal Islamic regime so that you can fight 
US "imperialism."  We neither tolerate the Islamic regime nor will we put up 
with US government and its criminal policies.   They are both our enemies.   
Your advice for us is not new. Thank you, we have already experienced it before 
during the 1979 Revolution.  Much of the Iranian left at that time chose to 
ally itself with the Islamists against the US government and the shah's regime. 
It brought us terrible disaster.   Your advice today is out of line even more  
because the Islamists are the ruling elite not an opposition force as they were 
during the Shah's regime. 

Mahmood                        

     

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Wayne S. Rossi<mailto:felianan@xxxxxxxxx> 
  To: Activists and scholars in Marxist 
tradition<mailto:marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [Marxism] "Iran's Ahmadinejad says Holocaust a myth"


  --- Mahmood ketabchi <mekchi@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mekchi@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

  > It is truly sad that some people on this email list support this
  > fucking anti Semite executioner who was promoted to the
  > presidency by the most brutal military thugs who have murdered
  > and killed 10s of thousands of communists and progressive
  > people.

  You've got to start from basic facts at some point, and the fact on the
  table is that Iran is a target of Western imperialism.  The media
  articles railing against Ahmadinejad (and they have been doing so since
  his election) are not objective reports of a man, having been elected
  in a system that is far from democratic, making gestures of bravado. 
  There is a definite *agenda* to their publication, and that is the
  vilification of Iran so as to make a brutal attack by imperialism on
  the nation more palatable.  It has been ongoing and systematic in
  reports on Iran in the previous months, and needs to be opposed.

  Say what you will about Ahmadinejad and the clerics; I'm with you.  
  Iran will not be liberated under capitalism.  But remember - the
  alternative at this point is not a workers' revolution in Iran, but the
  brutal subjugation of the country by imperialism.  This has got to be
  fought, even if it means that the existence of the clerical regime has
  to be tolerated for the time being.

  -Wayne

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