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Re: [Marxism] "Iran's Ahmadinejad says Holocaust a myth"
- To: "Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition" <marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [Marxism] "Iran's Ahmadinejad says Holocaust a myth"
- From: "Mahmood ketabchi" <mekchi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:25:00 -0500
- Seal-send-time: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:25:00 -0500
Louis wrote:
These was his original statement:
"Some European countries insist on saying that Hitler killed millions of
innocent Jews in furnaces and they insist on it to the extent that if
anyone proves something contrary to that they condemn that person and throw
them in jail," IRNA quoted Ahmadinejad as saying.
"Although we don't accept this claim, if we suppose it is true, our
question for the Europeans is: is the killing of innocent Jewish people by
Hitler the reason for their support to the occupiers of Jerusalem?" he said.
"If the Europeans are honest they should give some of their provinces in
Europe -- like in Germany, Austria or other countries -- to the Zionists
and the Zionists can establish their state in Europe. You offer part of
Europe and we will support it."
You'll note that he said that "we don't accept this claim".
Mahmood's reply:
At least within the Iranian community, even among the fascist Islamic thugs who
rule the county, there is no doubt as what Ahmadinejad said about holocaust and
Jewish people.
Read your own translation one more time. It clearly shows that Ahmadinejad,
similar to to all fascist hooligans, KKK, skin heads, and all sort of Nazi
demagogues, denies the brutal murder of Jews and holocaust.
When he says "we do not accept this claim" he is referencing to the "claim"
that millions of Jew people were murdered by the Nazi regime in Germany. Plus,
immediately after that, based on the translation you have given, he says, "if
we suppose it is true." As you can understand, he means that he does not
believe that "claim."
I am trying to find the actual Farsi text of his speech at the Islamic
Conference. When I find it, I will translate the relevant section.
For your information, here is what Ahmadinejad has said in his toady's speech
in Zahedan, Iran.
"In regard to Zionist claim based on murder and burning of 6 million Jews
during the World War II, he (Ahamdinejad) explained: in Western countries if
someone oppose this claim, they will be punished and imprisoned. So, it is
clear that they are very serious in their claim. The question is if you killed
these people, why do the Palestinians have to pay for it?" This Translation is
from the Farsi version of his speech as posted by official Iranian news agency.
As you can see, just like all anti-Semites, Nazi holocaust is called "Zionist
claim."
Mahmood
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