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[Marxism] Berkeley, Bogdan Denitch, YPSL, ISC
>Bogdan Denitch was in the Independent [not International] Socialist
League, Shachtman's arch-anti-Stalinist remnant in the 50s. Denitch was
never attached to the later left split from the ISL, the Independent
Socialist Clubs which became the International Socialists which begat
Solidarity and ISO. —ethan young
In the summer of 1961, Bogdan Denitch, a long-time friend of Michael
Harrington, dominated the Berkeley YPSL, although he was too old to be
a member. I had already had contact with the Young Socialist Alliance,
which held its forums at Jim and Betty Petras’s apartment. They didn’t
have any forums during the summer, but I ran into Jim and Betty, along
with Jim and Connie Peterson and Ted Mellor on the campus where I had a
job working for Jerome Cohen, a law professor who had received a grant
to study Chinese Communist Law. They were all my age or slightly
younger and were very easy to talk to. In fact, I don’t think that I
had any disagreements with anything that they said. However, I was
going to be a lawyer, and I knew that this was different.
YPSL offered classes and some forums. Michael Harrington’s talk was
built up. I didn’t know anything about him; this was a few years before
“The Other America” was published. Strangely, his talk was on W.H.
Auden instead of a socialist related subject. I knew nothing about
Auden or the references to him, although a couple of his poems must
have been included at the end of an English Lit course that I took in
college.
Denitch was a kind of a charmer, but didn’t seem to have any weight to
his views. I was reading stuff from the SWP and books about the Chinese
Revolution. At the same time I was doing this editorial work on the
Chinese Revolution itself. I believe that I joined after Paul Montauk
talked to me at a Labor Day picnic that the YSA/SWP held in the
Berkeley hills. The difference between Paul Montauk and Bogdan Denitch
was significant. Montauk was a long-term worker and socialist organizer
who had been involved in the 1946 Oakland General Strike. He was
married to Mary Lou Dobbs, the daughter of Farrell Dobbs and mother of
three children, whose upbringing he shared. Bogdan Denitch was just
talk.
This was the year that Max Shachtman gave his infamous talk in the Bay
Area in which he justified supporting the Bay of Pigs invasion because
some trade unionists participated in the counterrevolutionary assault.
All hell broke loose within YPSL. Shachtman wasn’t even allowed to give
his planned talk on the East Side of the Bay. From then on Hal and Ann
Draper became the adult support to YPSL. Hal Draper had been a
long-time critic of Shachtman. After a period of confusion, the local
YPSL dissolved and the Independent Socialist Club was formed. Although
it did not have the visible impact of the Young Socialist Alliance, it
was by far the largest public student socialist group at U.C. Berkeley.
My recollection is that it was mostly graduate students. Mike Parker,
Joel Geier, later Jim Petras (who probably was still ideologically
closer to Trotsky’s ideas) and others whose names I have forgotten were
members.
Despite their size and in spite of student admiration for Hal Draper,
aside from the Lucky Stores victory, the organization never seemed to
be able to connect with struggles as they unfolded. What had happened
in Cuba was good, but not good enough; in fact it wasn’t even a
socialist revolution. Malcolm X said some good things, but the whole
Black Nationalism thing made no sense. Even in the Free Speech
Movement, they were not as connected as other independent “New Left”
graduate students. They of course knew that the U.S. was obviously
wrong in Vietnam, but they were afraid to be identified with the
Vietnamese revolution. And so forth. I believe that there is an article
on MIA that discusses this from an insider’s point of view.
They are unquestionably doing better now. Their positions, still quite
similar to the past, are more in harmony with the unfolding events.
There is no ideological confusion over the Iraq resistance. Obviously,
the U.S. has to get out, but potential recruits are not identifying
with the Iraq resistance, except in the most visceral (and hidden)
sense. Right now, the civil rights struggle doesn’t pose the Black
Nationalist struggles of the recent past—at least not to their milieu.
The greatest ideological and organization problem that they may have to
face is the Cuban Question. A military confrontation there, combined
with a Defense of Cuba movement here, would tear them apart. But for
now it is hidden. And, in the absence of any ideological confrontation
with Marxist defenders of the Cuban Revolution, the ISC position that
calls Cuba a capitalist state and favors the overthrow of the Castro
leadership remains buried. From time to time, it is even openly
presented, but since it doesn’t have to face a “material” conflict, it
is swallowed like a bug in a salad, bothering its members and
supporters only temporarily.
Brian Shannon
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