Re: [Marxism] John Holloway-Alex Callinicos debate

["Calvin Broadbent" <calvinbroadbent@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

ERKAL UNAL WROTE:

> Yes, it is true, we might get Stalin even if we do seize the existing
> state, one can not guarantee >it, but just strive to overcome it; yet
> Stalin's emergence can not be ascribed to the aim of >seizuring the
> existing state and using it, by changing its form, for the interests of the
> working class >and the downtrodden.

I agree completely. I was only criticising Calliinicos' clumsy way of
associating Stalin-ism with Lula-or-Mbekism (sic).

RRUBINELLI WROTE:

> Think Calvin might be referring to the original Russian Revolution, a
> mass movement that seized and smashed state power and still under the
> pressure of continued international capitalism, yielded to the Stalinist
> bureaucratic caste.

Thanks, I was. I think Shane Mage is hopelessly wrong about Stalin, but I
won't get into it, since I can't be bothered.

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