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Re: [Marxism] John Holloway-Alex Callinicos debate

Er, wasn't Stalin the product of a mass movement that seized the state and
radically altered its character? In other words, we might get Stalin even if
we do sezie the existing state. A lot of Callinicos' analyses are quite
rhetorical.

ALEX CALLINOCOS WROTE:

This means we cannot simply try to seize the existing state. If we seize
the existing state, in the >end, at the worst we will get Stalin, at best
we will get someone like Lula or Mbeki in South Africa >who comes out of a
mass movement which seeks to change the world but ends up administering
>things for capitalism.

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